proper way to cut?

**JCVS** · 11-21-2005, 01:33 PM

Guys,
going on 14weeks of primo/sus/test enan.
went from 214 to 238,
If i cut, should i start now, or take a break?
i was thinking of winny/primo/prop and clen ?
my goal is to loose body fat as im also gaining mass? is that possible?
am i missing anything out of the equation?

**Carlos_E** · 11-29-2005, 12:57 PM

bump

**Zapp** · 11-29-2005, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by JCVS

Guys,
going on 14weeks of primo/sus/test enan.
went from 214 to 238,
If i cut, should i start now, or take a break?
i was thinking of winny/primo/prop and clen ?
my goal is to loose body fat as im also gaining mass? is that possible?
am i missing anything out of the equation?

I take it you are coming off of a bulker right? Alot of guys do pct, and then cut, but I just go straight into it. I use tren , prop, var, and then add masteron . The best cutter IMO. I don't see it possible to cut and gain mass to answer your other question.

**Carlos_E** · 11-29-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Zapp

I take it you are coming off of a bulker right? Alot of guys do pct, and then cut, but I just go straight into it. I use tren, prop, var, and then add masteron. The best cutter IMO. I don't see it possible to cut and gain mass to answer your other question.

Just wondering... going straight from a bulk into a cuter without a break how many weeks total are you on? Did you have a harder time coming off after the cutter?

**Zapp** · 11-29-2005, 04:12 PM

I was on for 6 months counting the cutter. I'm on pct right now, and not having any problems unless you want to count the tendonitus I'm having in my shoulder and elbow.

**Carlos_E** · 11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Zapp

I was on for 6 months counting the cutter. I'm on pct right now, and not having any problems unless you want to count the tendonitus I'm having in my shoulder and elbow.

I meant emotionally or any sides associated with low test. I did a long cycle before and I had a very hard time coming off. Did you do HCG during the 6 months?

**tough old man** · 11-29-2005, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by JCVS

Guys,
going on 14weeks of primo/sus/test enan.
went from 214 to 238,
If i cut, should i start now, or take a break?
i was thinking of winny/primo/prop and clen ?
my goal is to loose body fat as im also gaining mass? is that possible?
am i missing anything out of the equation?

Come on get a grip on yourself. You need to do PCT and then take as much time off as you were on including PCT.

Keep your calories up during PCT and then after your done start dropping the calories a couple hundred at a time.

Now another question. What is up with using Sus and Test at the same time. That's almost like using Test E and Test Cyp at the same time. Doesn't make any ****ing sense.

Note: I love this site as it's like watching the movie "PORKY"S" and "BRIAN'S SONG'. There's a ton of you that make me laugh and cry from the stupid things some of you do.

**Zapp** · 11-29-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

I meant emotionally or any sides associated with low test. I did a long cycle before and I had a very hard time coming off. Did you do HCG during the 6 months?

Just did nolv for 4 weeks at 20mg a day.

**Carlos_E** · 11-29-2005, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by tough old man

Now another question. What is up with using Sus and Test at the same time. That's almost like using Test E and Test Cyp at the same time. Doesn't make any ****ing sense.

Note: I love this site as it's like watching the movie "PORKY"S" and "BRIAN'S SONG'. There's a ton of you that make me laugh and cry from the stupid things some of you do.

Stupid? I run sust and test E together. A low doses of one or the other added to my cycle. Recommeded to me by Victor Martinez a pro.

Just because someone does something different than you does not make it stupid.

**JCVS** · 11-30-2005, 08:47 AM

thanks carlos Sus and test seem to work fine for me, almost 30 pounds up.
Now as far as cutting, so i can run the cutter straight through with out loosing my mind or my balls, lol?
when did u add the masteron ?

**IBdmfkr** · 11-30-2005, 09:52 AM

I'd take a break as well, but to each his own. I know how hard it is to take that break after you've gotten started and seeing the gains.

If you do this get on HCG 500iu Every 3-4days to help with the recovery after everything is done. Goodluck.

**Gra** · 11-30-2005, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by JCVS

thanks carlos Sus and test seem to work fine for me, almost 30 pounds up.
Now as far as cutting, so i can run the cutter straight through with out loosing my mind or my balls, lol?
when did u add the masteron?

Seen in an other post that he add mast for the last four weeks?