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11-28-2005, 05:00 PM #1RETIRED VET
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For Those of You who get Hairloss.....
for those guys who are more prone to hairloss yet still want to gain muscle, whats a good stack? what do you guys use and what do you stay away from?
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11-28-2005, 05:03 PM #2Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
Anything that doesnt aromatize and is a DHT derivative is best to stay away from. But for some just taking 500mgs of test can lead to hairloss. If you're prone to it its inevitable
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11-28-2005, 05:07 PM #3
Looks like you need some reading to do.
Yes its best to stay away from DHT derived products however even those can cause hairloss. Anavar is one of the best regarding hair.
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11-28-2005, 05:11 PM #4Originally Posted by Prada
, When you said that DHT derived products cause hair loss you put however??? However pertaining to what?
Anavar is infamous for hairloss, but it effects everyone differently. I have never once lost any hair from Var but have seen a difference as far as hairloss from other compounds. Mainly Winny and Mast
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11-28-2005, 05:20 PM #5
You are right I meant "however even non DHT derived products can cause hairloss".
In a nut shell ALL roids can lead to hairloss. Some more then others. It depends how prone you are.
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11-28-2005, 07:27 PM #6Originally Posted by Prada
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my bad Prada. I thought you were knocking what I said.
Yes, I totally agree with you. ALL roids can lead to hairloss, even if you choose a cycle around it. Hairloss can still be a prime target
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11-28-2005, 07:39 PM #7Banned
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I just wear a wig,if hair loss is a big concern,dont do ASS.Go for HGH,Slin and IGF.The HGH and IGF may even help with hair growth.
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11-28-2005, 07:51 PM #8
my hair grows uncontrolably, who cares about hair they can fix that now a days...theres always the comb over haha.
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11-28-2005, 08:46 PM #9
Nahh man Im not knocking what you said, more on the guy who didnt do any research.
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11-28-2005, 08:57 PM #10Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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11-28-2005, 09:47 PM #11
Infamous meaning that it is known for Hairloss. I know of a few friends that had severe hairloss to the opint where they had to stop. I on the other hand have never ever had any problems with hairloss with Var.
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11-28-2005, 09:50 PM #12
thinning or where you can see the scalp........
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11-30-2005, 12:36 AM #13RETIRED VET
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isnt deca pretty safe as far as hairloss? and what would it be good to stack with if i didnt use test?
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11-30-2005, 12:53 AM #14Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
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11-30-2005, 02:14 AM #15Anabolic Member
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besides who cares about the hair, just shave it off and u look even bigger
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11-30-2005, 03:03 AM #16Anabolic Member
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nadrolone(deca ) is harmless to the hair. All other aas will cause hairloss if you are prone, the androgen recepter in the scalp is the same as the one in the muscle.
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11-30-2005, 11:45 AM #17Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
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11-30-2005, 11:57 AM #18Senior Member
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I am running Test Cyp and Eq both at 200mg/week I take Avodart, Nolvadex 10mg/ed, saw palmetto, zinc, and multi vitamin, all daily and my hair is doing great, and very thick.
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11-30-2005, 12:02 PM #19RETIRED VET
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so possibly deca 400-600mg per wk, test E at 250/wk, Eq at 400-600mg per wk...anything else?
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11-30-2005, 02:07 PM #20Associate Member
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i'm MPB prone. several compounds have caused me to lose a little (nobody notices but me)
currently i'm running 850mg test enan w/ 250mg deca and 50mg tbol and using dutasteride .5mg ED and my hairline hasnt been impacted one bit. i'm in week 6.
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11-30-2005, 04:21 PM #21Senior Member
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Originally Posted by thebrakes
Its stated that you should not take Deca with Propecia or Avodart because your hair will fall out faster. Good Luck Bro.
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11-30-2005, 10:50 PM #22RETIRED VET
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should i just use femara with the deca ?
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12-01-2005, 02:52 AM #23Originally Posted by Anabolic CEO
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12-01-2005, 02:55 AM #24Originally Posted by Jayhova16
Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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12-01-2005, 08:52 AM #25Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Anabolic CEO
please give me the binding affinities of both deca and DHN to the AR in the scalp, or tell me about a guy you know who lost a bunch of hair while using deca with a 5AR inhibitor, or ANYTHING besides "it's stated" meanwhile, i'll enjoy my lucious do.
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12-01-2005, 09:04 AM #26Originally Posted by thebrakes
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12-01-2005, 09:33 AM #27Associate Member
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Originally Posted by BOBBY D
if anyone reads up on this, they will see alot of guys who regurgitate this myth, and a lot of guys who attempt to disspell it.
and i'm not taking propecia/finasteride - i'm on dutasteride.
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12-01-2005, 09:55 AM #28
no brakes, i speak this just from seeing a majority of ppl on this board saying how deca & duta/fina is not a good combo for the hair. there is another thread opened about this issue its called "deca/fina myth" or something like that, & powerlifter mike describes it pretty well
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12-01-2005, 09:56 AM #29RETIRED VET
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hey thebrakes, should i use dutasteride with deca or use letro?
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12-01-2005, 11:13 AM #30
This is only theory - doesn't seem to be a problem in real life tho
The theory is that the alpha 5 reduced form of nandrolone (DHN) is milder on the hair than nandrolone itself (unlike most if not all other AS) so if you inhibit 5ar with finasteride or dutasteride then higher levels of the more potent (in terms of hairloss) nandrolone is left - resulting in an increase in hairloss.
The problem with this theory is that nandrolone itself (as opposed to DHN) is apparently still pretty mild on the hair and since deca is normally run with test, then running a 5ar blocker will prolly be safer overall in terms of hair preservation.
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1. deca alone is mild on the hair
2. deca + 5AR blocker like dutasteride will be slightly worse, but still not too bad
3. deca + test + 5AR blocker will be about the same plus you'll still be able to get it up
4. deca + test with no 5AR blockerwill be hard on the hair
this is all JMO
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12-01-2005, 11:15 AM #31hey thebrakes, should i use dutasteride with deca or use letro?
dutasteride helps reduce test related hairloss
letro helps reduce estrogen levels (reduces bloating & the risk of gyno)
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12-01-2005, 11:18 AM #32Anavar is infamous for hairloss
I've run var a few times & never had any probs, even though I'm moderately MPB prone (I get hairloss from test etc)
Everyone is different, but the majority of reports / threads etc I've seen say that Var is probably the mildest AS on the hair.....maybe your var was winny? very similar effects, but horrible for the hair.
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12-01-2005, 11:42 AM #33RETIRED VET
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Duke of Earl
so what cycle would you recommend when de****g with deca ? deca maybe at 400-600mg per wk, with test, dutasteride, and would you add anything else?
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12-01-2005, 11:59 AM #34Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Duke of Earl
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