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    2nd Week off Cycle, still strong as an Ox!!!

    Hey fellas, at what point do I expect to lose any strength because I still am putting out some heavy work loads. Only my 2nd week off cycle. My size and weight is steady with no lose in pounds or muscularity. Let me know what you think.

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    What did you take??

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    For most losses occur from 3 wks on out(depending on the gear ester), but some guys say they don't lose any-either great genetics or perfect PCT.

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    all accordin to the compounds you took mate!

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    When i use creatine post cycle i go stronger for a week or so.....I once shoulder pressed 140kg(308lbs) for reps post cycle and i am not bullshitting,i usually max for reps about 120kg(264lbs).......so its possable to keep strength......how long just depends on what you were on.

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    14 week cycle:

    wk1-14 test prop. 100mg ed
    wk1-10 tren a 80mg ed
    wk1-12 eq 500mg ew

    pct: standard clomid therapy plus creatine

    Whats really crazy is that I go to the gym feeling like damn, this is the day I cant do shit I did while on and then I start my workout and I swear, i am still getting stronger, even though i feel like i'm not. Like right before my cycle ended, I did 425 @ 1 rep. 2 days ago( 12 days off cycle) I did 455 @ 1 rep. Then followed that up with 2 sets of 405 @ 5 reps on the first then 4 reps on the second. This is some wierd shit!
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    You haven't started PCT yet have you? You need to wait 3 weeks after last eq shot. Don't do a standard PCT, that means a time limit, do PCT until your sex drive is back in full swing

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    yea i started it already, about a week ago. I ended eq like 2 weeks before last prop shot and last prop shot was 2 weeks ago today. Thansk for the PCT advise, I'll make sure I continue to run until I'm all straight. NO time limit.
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    You haven't started PCT yet have you? You need to wait 3 weeks after last eq shot. Don't do a standard PCT, that means a time limit, do PCT until your sex drive is back in full swing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jray1der
    14 week cycle:

    wk1-14 test prop. 100mg ed
    wk1-10 tren a 80mg ed
    wk1-12 eq 500mg ew

    pct: standard clomid therapy plus creatine

    Whats really crazy is that I go to the gym feeling like damn, this is the day I cant do shit I did while on and then I start my workout and I swear, i am still getting stronger, even though i feel like i'm not. Like right before my cycle ended, I did 425 @ 1 rep. 2 days ago( 12 days off cycle) I did 455 @ 1 rep. Then followed that up with 2 sets of 405 @ 5 reps on the first then 4 reps on the second. This is some wierd shit!
    yup you should really have run the prop 3 weeks past the eq not two then start the pct 3 days after the last shot of prop!

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    yea, i've heard 2 week and i've heard 3 weeks, i heard more 2's than 3's so obviuosly i went with the 2's. I seem ok for now. But thanks Bro!
    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    yup you should really have run the prop 3 weeks past the eq not two then start the pct 3 days after the last shot of prop!

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    k mate the actual active life for eq is 21 days.

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    so I'm looking at possibly a decline is size and strength in about another week? Any opinions welcome.

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