Liquidex for Test Boost

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12-02-2005, 07:50 PM
Papi93

Liquidex for Test Boost

It has been 3 weeks since I finished my PCT. I have been taking Redkat to try to keep my test levels high. I was given a recommendation to try an AI like Liquidex. Bryan said to dose at 0.5mg for 3-4 weeks and he said test levels will nearly double. I just bought a bottle of Liquidex and liquid Viagra. I want to impress my new girlfriend with my sexual appetite. I thinking of doing the Redkat until my next cycle. The Liquidex for 4 weeks and using the viagra before sex. I've used the cia but the porn star, on this site, recommends viagra. I'll go with the professional advice on this one. I'm also using Horny Goat Weed. Does anyone have experience with Liquidex off-cycle? Did you feel the test boost that Bryan was talking about? I'm thinking of getting some tribulus (Vitrex).
12-02-2005, 07:52 PM
Got Insulin?

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clomid will aid in blowing a load. but yes liquidex will help increase your appetite.
12-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Papi93

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Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

clomid will aid in blowing a load. but yes liquidex will help increase your appetite.

Yeah, I used clomid for PCT and it made my loads bigger and my nuts swole.
12-02-2005, 07:56 PM
Got Insulin?

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always enjoyed what clomid did for me haha. :0piss:
12-02-2005, 08:02 PM
Papi93

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Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

always enjoyed what clomid did for me haha. :0piss:

I asked if I could use it will off-cycle and everything said that I should not. That's why I'm not using it now. I always use it for PCT and sometimes during a light cycle if I get testicular atrophy. Some say it is pointless but for me it helped reduce atrophy. If I was doing an extended cycle and harsher compounds (tren, etc.), then I would go with HCG.
12-02-2005, 08:57 PM
Papi93

Have never used Liquidex before. Does it just prevent bloating or does it act like a mild diuretic? What I mean by this is will it reduce water retention off-cycle?
12-02-2005, 09:00 PM
Got Insulin?

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liquidex is very good for preventing bloating. i love liquidex.
12-02-2005, 09:12 PM
O.M.E.G.A

I used 1 mg a day for 30 days

worked like a charm

some say 1 mg is too much, but you want to totally block Estro as much as possible especially during pct
12-02-2005, 09:17 PM
Papi93

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Originally Posted by OMEGA

I used 1 mg a day for 30 days

worked like a charm

some say 1 mg is too much, but you want to totally block Estro as much as possible especially during pct

Is there any rebound effect with liquidex? Like water retention, lowered test levels after use. Thanks for your advice, Omega. I was reading the profile and a study used 1mg for test boosting purposes. I will go with your suggestion. 0.5mg is more useful for gyno and bloat reduction, isn't it?
12-02-2005, 10:00 PM
powerliftmike

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Originally Posted by Papi93

Is there any rebound effect with liquidex? Like water retention, lowered test levels after use. Thanks for your advice, Omega. I was reading the profile and a study used 1mg for test boosting purposes. I will go with your suggestion. 0.5mg is more useful for gyno and bloat reduction, isn't it?

Let me explain rebound: This is when you dont take nolva or clomid long enough post cycle for your body to clear out the excess estrogen. Remember nolva and clomid mainly just block estrogen from the hypothalamus and breast tissue receptors. They do not reduce circulatory estrogen levels. So if you stop taking them, boom, your estrogen receptors are loaded and you get all the bad effects of excess estrogen.

AI's like ldex stop estrogen from forming thus lowering circulatory estrogen levels so there is not much rebound to speak of. Both SERMs and AIs boost endogenous test production b/c the hypothalamus is not "seeing" any estrogen in the body and so it attempts to raise it by increasing testosterone.
12-02-2005, 10:48 PM
O.M.E.G.A

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Originally Posted by Papi93

Is there any rebound effect with liquidex? Like water retention, lowered test levels after use. Thanks for your advice, Omega. I was reading the profile and a study used 1mg for test boosting purposes. I will go with your suggestion.

no the only sides to speak of were a little joint pain ( not much at all)

and slightly lower libido, but hey its PCT so dont worry
12-02-2005, 11:37 PM
Papi93

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Originally Posted by OMEGA

no the only sides to speak of were a little joint pain ( not much at all)

and slightly lower libido, but hey its PCT so dont worry

Shit, I thought you only got lowered libidio with letro. Tell me this isn't so.
12-02-2005, 11:50 PM
shortie

IMO one of the most underated aspects of ldex is it's ability to raise test levels-From Pubmed

Effects of aromatase inhibition in elderly men with low or borderline-low serum testosterone levels.

Leder BZ, Rohrer JL, Rubin SD, Gallo J, Longcope C.

Endocrine Unit, Department of Medicine, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts 02114, USA.

As men age, serum testosterone levels decrease, a factor that may contribute to some aspects of age-related physiological deterioration. Although androgen replacement has been shown to have beneficial effects in frankly hypogonadal men, its use in elderly men with borderline hypogonadism is controversial. Furthermore, current testosterone replacement methods have important limitations. We investigated the ability of the orally administered aromatase inhibitor, anastrozole, to increase endogenous testosterone production in 37 elderly men (aged 62-74 yr) with screening serum testosterone levels less than 350 ng/dl. Subjects were randomized in a double-blind fashion to the following 12-wk oral regimens: group 1: anastrozole 1 mg daily (n = 12); group 2: anastrozole 1 mg twice weekly (n = 11); and group 3: placebo daily (n = 14). Hormone levels, quality of life (MOS Short-Form Health Survey), sexual function (International Index of Erectile Function), benign prostate hyperplasia severity (American Urological Association Symptom Index Score), prostate-specific antigen, and measures of safety were compared among groups. Mean +/- SD bioavailable testosterone increased from 99 +/- 31 to 207 +/- 65 ng/dl in group 1 and from 115 +/- 37 to 178 +/- 55 ng/dl in group 2 (P < 0.001 vs. placebo for both groups and P = 0.054 group 1 vs. group 2). Total testosterone levels increased from 343 +/- 61 to 572 +/- 139 ng/dl in group 1 and from 397 +/- 106 to 520 +/- 91 ng/dl in group 2 (P < 0.001 vs. placebo for both groups and P = 0.012 group 1 vs. group 2). Serum estradiol levels decreased from 26 +/- 8 to 17 +/- 6 pg/ml in group 1 and from 27 +/- 8 to 17 +/- 5 pg/ml in group 2 (P < 0.001 vs. placebo for both groups and P = NS group 1 vs. group 2). Serum LH levels increased from 5.1 +/- 4.8 to 7.9 +/- 6.5 U/liter and from 4.1 +/- 1.6 to 7.2 +/- 2.8 U/liter in groups 1 and 2, respectively (P = 0.007 group 1 vs. placebo, P = 0.003 group 2 vs. placebo, and P = NS group 1 vs. group 2). Scores for hematocrit, MOS Short-Form Health Survey, International Index of Erectile Function, and American Urological Association Symptom Index Score did not change. Serum prostate-specific antigen levels increased in group 2 only (1.7 +/- 1.0 to 2.2 +/- 1.5 ng/ml, P = 0.031, compared with placebo). These data demonstrate that aromatase inhibition increases serum bioavailable and total testosterone levels to the youthful normal range in older men with mild hypogonadism. Serum estradiol levels decrease modestly but remain within the normal male range. The physiological consequences of these changes remain to be determined.

You can see it is very effective even at the lower doses.
12-03-2005, 12:12 AM
O.M.E.G.A

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Originally Posted by Papi93

Shit, I thought you only got lowered libidio with letro. Tell me this isn't so.

nothing to worry about bro

it MAY happen and it MAY not
12-04-2005, 01:39 AM
cmax

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Originally Posted by Papi93

Shit, I thought you only got lowered libidio with letro. Tell me this isn't so.

I have been taking Liquidex for a while and it does NOT lower my libido. My libido is exactly where it was before I started taking liquidex.

So you should be safe.

Also Viagra is definitely better than Cialis, but you need to get it on within 4 hours of taking it.
12-04-2005, 05:14 PM
Papi93

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Originally Posted by cmax

I have been taking Liquidex for a while and it does NOT lower my libido. My libido is exactly where it was before I started taking liquidex.

So you should be safe.

Also Viagra is definitely better than Cialis, but you need to get it on within 4 hours of taking it.

What type of dose did you use for the viagra? Thanks for your help!
12-04-2005, 07:01 PM
cmax

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Originally Posted by Papi93

What type of dose did you use for the viagra? Thanks for your help!

With the pill form it would be around 25 mg. I would not exceed 25 mg per dose.

Personally you should start off with a 12.5 mg dose (half a 25 mg pill) and test out your tolerance just so you know how you will react to it.

With liquid V, most people recommend 25 mg (1 ml) and I have found the liquid format to be a slight bit milder than the pill format. So to get 25 mg you will need to do 1 ml or 10 pumps.

I would recommend taking 12.5 mg or 5 pumps of Liquid V the first time around to assess your tolerance.

Arimidex

If you are taking arimidex as well I would recommend a dosage of .25 to .30 mg each day or between 2 to 3 pumps.
12-04-2005, 07:16 PM
cmax

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Originally Posted by Papi93

I want to impress my new girlfriend with my sexual appetite.

I would recommend Longjax Mht With Arginine to increase your sexual appetite. This contains LONGJAX, HORNY GOAT WEED, TRIBULUS TERRESTRIS, L-ARGININE, and MACAPURE MACA.

This really spikes your libido, but it only seems to work well for like two weeks... after two weeks of use it tends to be less effective.

You can buy this at the vitamin shoppe as well as other places.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/images/...us/vs-2249.gif
12-04-2005, 07:34 PM
Papi93

[QUOTE=cmax]With the pill form it would be around 25 mg. I would not exceed 25 mg per dose.

Personally you should start off with a 12.5 mg dose (half a 25 mg pill) and test out your tolerance just so you know how you will react to it.

With liquid V, most people recommend 25 mg (1 ml) and I have found the liquid format to be a slight bit milder than the pill format. So to get 25 mg you will need to do 1 ml or 10 pumps.

I would recommend taking 12.5 mg or 5 pumps of Liquid V the first time around to assess your tolerance.

I'll start with 25mg and go from there. Thanks for the help, bro!
12-04-2005, 07:40 PM
cmax

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Originally Posted by Papi93

I'll start with 25mg and go from there. Thanks for the help, bro!

Sounds Good. You must really want to really impress this chick the first time around. Have you banged her yet?

I would suggest concentrating on impressing her more with your linguistics and less effort on trying to impress her with your kickstand. I have found that not all women like a jackhammer and actually prefer smooth, decisive strokes... whoa dude that is totally TMI!

I'll shut the **** up now....

Anyway, Rock out with your cock out!
12-04-2005, 07:57 PM
powerliftmike

I have seen ldex increase my libido, drain subcutaneous water, and reduce body weight (presumably water weight). It has worked alot better for me than a nolva/proviron stack.
12-04-2005, 08:00 PM
Papi93

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Originally Posted by powerliftmike

I have seen ldex increase my libido, drain subcutaneous water, and reduce body weight (presumably water weight). It has worked alot better for me than a nolva/proviron stack.

I was looking to include it my next PCT. Then I heard that it can cause a decrease in libido, the exact opposite what you would want from a PCT product. I guess everyone reacts differently. It looks like I'll have to experiment to see what works for me. Thanks the input, Powerliftmike!