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    noob 1st cycle ????

    my buddy and i just started out first cycle monday, i will be 30 mg dbol m-f and a 250 mg injection of test on wednesdays. ive been thinking of running dbol for 8 weeks and the test for 12 , and input or opinions . oh yeah im a first timer and only have been lifting for a couple of years , with minimal gains

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    8 weeks is far to long for Dbol bro.

    Secondly,you need to take it every day.Split the doses 4x a day,since Dbol has a half life of 4.5 hrs.


    Are you taking any anti estrogens?

    What about PCT?

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    Welcome to AR. If you are getting minimal gains, I strongly suggest looking at your diet. If your not pounding food, you will NOT grow. Though I changed my body with a very low dose of test, I will say you need to run at least 400mg of Test and you definitely DO NOT want to run DBOL longer than 4 weeks. DBOL is used to help jump start a cycle while the Test is kicking in. (Test E takes roughly 4 weeks to fully take effect)

    Your cycle should look something like this.

    weeks 1-4 DBOL 30mg (make sure you split your dose every 4.5 hours)
    weeks 1-10 Test 400mg (200mg on Mon. 200mg on thursday)
    Nolva - 10mg ED
    PCT - 2 weeks after last test injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    8 weeks is far to long for Dbol bro.

    Secondly,you need to take it every day.Split the doses 4x a day,since Dbol has a half life of 4.5 hrs.


    Are you taking any anti estrogens?

    What about PCT?

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    so i should use the dbol everyday instead of 5 on 2 off ?
    Last edited by imsmall; 12-03-2005 at 05:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imsmall
    so i should use the dbol everyday instead of 5 on 2 off ?
    yup you need to run it ed mate not 5/2!

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    You don't need d-bol for your first cycle. You will gain plenty off of the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp
    You don't need d-bol for your first cycle. You will gain plenty off of the test.
    test 250mg 2x a week for a total of 500mg a week...and I agree no D-bol for your first cycle!!

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    ok well i have decieded to run with 30 mg of dbol everyday and 2 250mg test shots twice every week , i will run the d bol for 4 weeks and the test for 10 -mabye 12 any other advice also im taking milk thistle twice e.d

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    ur good to go bro, what about post cycle treatment?
    What will u use?
    Some clomid/nolva combo?

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    test only for first cycle at 500mg per week 2 x 250mg shots a week, for 12 weeks, id leave the dbol alone until the second cycle or even further down the road,

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUYLONGTERM
    Welcome to AR. If you are getting minimal gains, I strongly suggest looking at your diet. If your not pounding food, you will NOT grow. Though I changed my body with a very low dose of test, I will say you need to run at least 400mg of Test and you definitely DO NOT want to run DBOL longer than 4 weeks. DBOL is used to help jump start a cycle while the Test is kicking in. (Test E takes roughly 4 weeks to fully take effect)
    what is your diet like? No amount of steroids will get you bigger if you dont know how to eat properly. Read this

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

    If you cant gain naturally, then dont take steroids yet until you know how to eat. There's plenty of time to grow, just make sure you take the time to do it right!

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    You should wait on the Dbol and see how your body reacts to test first. Save the Dbol for the next cycle, that way you will know how exactly test affects you, and what effects Dbol has on you. If your diet is in check you will make really good gains on your first cycle with just test at 500mg/wk, assuming you train your @ss off! Good luck.

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    well im already 1 full week into d bol , with no real side effects , my 3rd day i had minor kidney pain , and thats it. other than that im eat like crazy and am drinking high calorie and pro shakes

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    i hope so , i only weigh 135 pounds and have been trying to gain weight for like 3 years , and i know that this is not the right way to do things but it definetly makes me try harder , i just hope that with my current weight that nothing bad happens to me from it . today is my seventh day on the d bol at 30 mg a day and ive done two shots 250 mg each also . i will be doing the test every wed and sun , hopefully i will see some gains soon.

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    You need to get rid of that link to your d-bol supplier, it is against the rules bro.

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    my bad guys newbie didnt know

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