12-03-2005, 11:16 PM #1
change in plans what do you guys think?
Since I have extra test e Im just going to extend it from 12wks to 14wks instead of doing test e for 12wks and prop from 12-14.
Do you guys think I should be ok doing the same PCT and stuff?
Also after how long of a cycle is it a good idea to use HCG ?
12-03-2005, 11:20 PM #2Originally Posted by briansauras
If so, then it sounds fine to me.
Your first cycle?
I honestly don't see the need for HCG in cycles less that 20+ weeks. More for TRT type situations.
12-03-2005, 11:24 PM #3Originally Posted by bigJJ
But like what you said, would it be to much to run 14wks of test e then 2wks of prop before PCT? I mean would you need to a longer PCT or anything like that?
This is my first.
12-03-2005, 11:25 PM #4
if u r going to be using test e instead of prop at the end then yes the timing for your pct should be changed.. i think test e is 2 weeks were as prop is 3 days... here check it out yourself http://forums.anabolicreview.com/showthread.php?t=94822
12-03-2005, 11:27 PM #5Originally Posted by topvega
12-03-2005, 11:29 PM #6Originally Posted by briansauras
I am doing pct for a 20 weeker right now... taking clomid 100mg ed nolva 20mg ed for 30 days...
12-03-2005, 11:32 PM #7Originally Posted by briansauras
If you run Test E with no Prop, due to the time delay of the enanthate ester, you need to wait two weeks before beginning PCT. The Prop changes things considerably.
Prop is usually run like that to minimize gain losses during the time needed to wait before PCT is done after an Enanthate ester is used.
Refer to the link he provided for more info.
In answer to your original questions, either would be fine, as long as your timing of PCT is done correctly. The longer cycle should not be a problem at all, as long as you have been responding well to the Test E well so far.
12-03-2005, 11:33 PM #8Originally Posted by topvega
Now how about if you were to do prop for those 2wks inbetween test e and pct. Would you need a longer/higher dosed PCT.
And also is HCG needed for a cycle thats 15+ more weeks? Or could you get away with a 21-30day pct?
12-03-2005, 11:35 PM #9Originally Posted by bigJJ
Yeah I understand the PCT start times. So basically i would run test e for 14wks then the next day after my last shot I would start prop @100mg ED and run it for 11days and then 3days later start my PCT?
Last edited by briansauras; 12-03-2005 at 11:38 PM.
12-03-2005, 11:43 PM #10
Bro I didn't have a problem extending my cycle from 12 weeks originally to 20 weeks.... I am 2 days from being done with pct and have kept a majority of my gains...lost a total of about 10lbs post cycle...alot of it was water and fat..
12-03-2005, 11:45 PM #11Originally Posted by topvega
BTW what compounds are you using?
Last edited by briansauras; 12-03-2005 at 11:49 PM.
12-03-2005, 11:56 PM #12
12-03-2005, 11:58 PM #13Originally Posted by topvega
12-04-2005, 12:14 AM #14Originally Posted by briansauras
I started out at around 160/165lbs... at my peek I was 198ish, but my 6 pack was gone, or at least 4 of the packs were...now I am pretty much done with pct and I weigh in at a 186lbs. I have good cut and vascularity back in my muscles... and yes my 6 pack is back... I have to be honest, I don't know if I wld have done as well keeping my gains without the IGF... The shit is expensive, but from the looks of it worth it....
12-04-2005, 12:20 AM #15Originally Posted by topvega
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