12-05-2005, 08:19 AM #1
Here are my mid-cycle lab results with questions!
Stats: 243lbs, 6'2'', 13%bf (DEXA scan) 9% (calipers), 25yrs old
Cycle: 500mg test E/week
100 Mg masteron 5days/week
60mg anavar /day
10mg aromasin /day
150iuhcg/day (as directed by SWALE)
I have been on for close to 6 weeks now and got my bloodwork and had a few questions, here are the labs:
Free test-52pg/ml range:9.3-26.5
prolactin-6.3 range: 2.1-17.7
progesterone-3.5ng/ml range: 0.3-1.2
estrodiol-22pg/ml range 0-53
total estrogens 317pg/ml range 40-115
1. My natural IGF level pre-cycle was 320, why is it only 238 while on 4iu/day? (HGH is definetly real, I have a script)
2. Although my estrodiol is within range, my total e is high, should I up the aromasin or switch to somthing else??
3. My progesterone is too high, is this a problem, what can I do to decrease it??
12-05-2005, 08:26 AM #2Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
12-05-2005, 08:30 AM #3
Is Cabergoline anything like Bromocriptine, Bromo made me feel like SH*T for two days! looks like I have some research to do.
12-05-2005, 08:40 AM #4Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
12-05-2005, 08:55 AM #5
Thanks Meso, I apreciate your response-
BUMp for more input
12-05-2005, 09:08 AM #6Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
How long you been running the HGH?
You split the 4 iu's into 2 shots daily?
12-05-2005, 09:49 AM #7
I run the HGH everyday at 2iu in the am and 2iu after my evening workout. I take it everyday because the HRT docs I work for say that taking days off is pointless 9although I am open to any suggestion as i know Docs dont know everything).
The HGH is from Signature Labs and is scripted through my clinic. I have been running the HGH for around 8 weeks.
12-05-2005, 10:30 AM #8Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
12-05-2005, 10:34 AM #9Originally Posted by Pinnacle
12-05-2005, 10:45 AM #10
Thank you for your valuble info! I am afraid to discontinue the anti-e due to estrogen sides. Pinnacle, as for the elevated progesterone, is there anything to worry about as far as sides?
12-05-2005, 10:53 AM #11
Actually, I just realized; As for anti-e decreasing IGF-1, we have plenty of pateints on TRT and HGH therapy who have arimidex and/or tamoxifen in their programs and their IGF-1 goes through the roof!!!
Maybe its an aromasin thing, again thanks for all your help, I hope this can be informative to all members.
12-05-2005, 10:58 AM #12
Are you taking anything like an ECA stack or Ephedra? This can lower your IGF-1 levels as well.
12-05-2005, 10:58 AM #13Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
12-05-2005, 11:07 AM #14Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE
I take ephederine only on workout days, but I was also doing it when my natural levels read 320. Could be a combination of things! It sucks because according to my labs I am better off not taking HGH than taking 4ius-go figure!
Pinn-I will try the b6. My guess is the progesterone may be coming from the daily HCG use, I will try a different protocol as far as the HCG goes. I also have a couple kits of Igtropin, Ill give those a run to see if that elevates the IGF
Funny thing is, my joints are aching like CRAZY, thought my IGF would be through the roof!!
12-05-2005, 11:12 AM #15Originally Posted by anabolicbruce
12-05-2005, 11:14 AM #16
HGH is supposed to help joints, you gotta definately figure this one out
12-05-2005, 11:14 AM #17
T3 is suppose to help with prog issues... That is why alot of people stack test/hgh/slin/T3.
As for the ephedrine use I would go with caffine and aspirin with it, run it like you would clen ... 2 weeks on 2 weeks off... JMHO
12-05-2005, 11:16 AM #18Originally Posted by Pinnacle
12-05-2005, 11:18 AM #19Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
I forgot to add t3 to my list, I am taking 25mcgs/day. I am not too consistant with the ephederine, I somtimes go a week without it, I dont know if that could be an issue
thanks for the reply Meso, this is some great info
12-05-2005, 02:59 PM #20
Also, does anyone have any studies regarding superphysiological levels of testosterone (mine are 6 times the norm) and health. I plan on being on a while and want to make sure I am limiting any permanent sides to ZERO?
I guess 5000ng is normal for somone who is on, correct??
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