Source out of country= bigger risk?

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 10:53 AM

If there was a source who was out of the country who recieved the funds, then had someone in the other country send the goods, is there a chance of getting into more trouble from that as opposed to just ordering domestically?

What are your opinions on situations like this in general?

**Born Threat** · 12-08-2005, 10:57 AM

Not a chance of getting im more trouble, but you have to worry about customs when you order from overseas. More like source out of country=less chance of recieving your gear.

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 11:24 AM

i would avoid ordering overseas at all costs.. customs will get you eventually IMO..

**Smiley619** · 12-08-2005, 11:27 AM

be safe, go domestic

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 01:39 PM

i think i worded it too vaguely for you guys, here it is....

buyer- in country #1
source recieving funds- in country #2
sender of items ordered- in country #1

what are your opinions on this, now that i have made it clearer?

is this a desireable way for things to be? has anyone had any bad experiences with this kind of situation?

**STEVO 47** · 12-08-2005, 01:52 PM

From what I understand. Get caught ordering overseas customs letter.
get caught domestic door busted in.

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

i think i worded it too vaguely for you guys, here it is....

buyer- in country #1
source recieving funds- in country #2
sender of items ordered- in country #1

what are your opinions on this, now that i have made it clearer?

is this a desireable way for things to be? has anyone had any bad experiences with this kind of situation?

that has nothing to do with you where your funds go.. its safer for the source probably. its where your gear ships out from and where it goes to that effects you.

**muscleburst** · 12-08-2005, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by STEVO 47

From what I understand. Get caught ordering overseas customs letter.
get caught domestic door busted in.

so your saying its better to order overseas than domestic,

letter sounds better than door busted

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by STEVO 47

From what I understand. Get caught ordering overseas customs letter.
get caught domestic door busted in.

whoa, its the letter that gets your door busted. domestic is 100X safer everyone knows that..

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

whoa, its the letter that gets your door busted. domestic is 100X safer everyone knows that..

I see your point but, I think my question is still misunderstood. even if the sender of the items is in the country one would be ordering from, there is still a risk of customs gettin involved? I dont understand how sending funds to a source in another country is gonna get customs involved when the items will be mailed from the same country they are being ordered from? There is no link between who is sending the items and who recieved the funds, in a way right? I mean they are two different countries?

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 05:29 PM

i was just replying someone elses quote.. i understand you fully. customs is not involved when things are shipped within the united states.. where you send the funds changing nothing at all. the important thing is that it ships from within the US to you.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

that has nothing to do with you where your funds go.. its safer for the source probably. its where your gear ships out from and where it goes to that effects you.

how would that be so? If the funds are being sent to a completely different place than where the items will ship from, completely different person, in another country, how is it NOT safer? I just would like to know beforehand.

THis is not a scenerio where the funds will be sent to another country and the items will ship from that same country. The reciever of funds is in country 1, sender of items is in country 2, and the customer is in country 2.
Sorry to repeat myself but, Im still confused.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

i was just replying someone elses quote.. i understand you fully. customs is not involved when things are shipped within the united states.. where you send the funds changing nothing at all. the important thing is that it ships from within the US to you.

Ok now that you understand me, is the way Im describing at all safer than just ordering COMPLETELY domestic? There is a choice, that is why I am asking this question. It would seem so because there is no link between the customer and the sender of items ya get what im sayin? so there is no real proof that the items were paid for, I dunno...........

**STEVO 47** · 12-08-2005, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

whoa, its the letter that gets your door busted. domestic is 100X safer everyone knows that..

This debate can go on and on but I'll tell you this much. Do you know
how many packages get flagged by customs, lots and unless they're
large orders it wouldn't be worth the time and money. After all they can't
touch the dealers overseas because some of the other countries it's
legal. Now domestic. Local authorities and they know that if they get
you they have a chance to get the other guy too knowing he's
domestic and it is illegal over here in the US.

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by STEVO 47

This debate can go on and on but I'll tell you this much. Do you know
how many packages get flagged by customs, lots and unless they're
large orders it wouldn't be worth the time and money. After all they can't
touch the dealers overseas because some of the other countries it's
legal. Now domestic. Local authorities and they know that if they get
you they have a chance to get the other guy too knowing he's
domestic and it is illegal over here in the US.

here is the thing.. when you buy domestic you are 100X less likely to have your package even looked into.. it would have to leak.. so thats where the safety comes into play. USPS does 138648653406053 packages a day. Customs checks almost every package that comes in..

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

how would that be so? If the funds are being sent to a completely different place than where the items will ship from, completely different person, in another country, how is it NOT safer? I just would like to know beforehand.

THis is not a scenerio where the funds will be sent to another country and the items will ship from that same country. The reciever of funds is in country 1, sender of items is in country 2, and the customer is in country 2.
Sorry to repeat myself but, Im still confused.

its safer for the source to have your funds sent to another country it has no bearing on you at all where you send it. its legal to send cash in mail anywhere you want it to go to. the rule to drug de****g is to never have the money and the drugs in the same location.

**STEVO 47** · 12-08-2005, 05:44 PM

And to answer the original question. I think when funds are sent to
one place and orders are sent from somewhere else I think it makes
it harder to track what's going on. I don't know for sure but that's
just my thought's.

**STEVO 47** · 12-08-2005, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

its safer for the source to have your funds sent to another country it has no bearing on you at all where you send it. its legal to send cash in mail anywhere you want it to go to. the rule to drug de****g is to never have the money and the drugs in the same location.

I wasn't quick enough to reply but I have to agree with you on that one. as also
stated above.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

its safer for the source to have your funds sent to another country it has no bearing on you at all where you send it. its legal to send cash in mail anywhere you want it to go to. the rule to drug de****g is to never have the money and the drugs in the same location.

Yea, thats what I was thinkin. So the only way someone is gonna get busted doin things that way, is if somehow that package is sniffed by dogs or opened up right? even then they can just say its not theirs because they have no way of proving that they actually paid for it, or at least to that person who shipped the item. So basically they are good to go, in a sense....?

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 06:34 PM

well steroids dont get sniffed #1 and the most common way to get busted is a leaking package and they open it and do a controlled delivery to your home and you accept the package.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 06:56 PM

what about if it was a POBox?

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 07:00 PM

what if they post up to see who takes the pack from the po box. same thing.. in your name or not same issue...

**thetruth-76** · 12-08-2005, 07:35 PM

I get you bro! You are ok either way. Your source is out of country but the actual person sending with the gear is in country. You should be as good as getting a domestic delivery. Many overseas are getting to this now. Send a bulk to a control and have it distributed in country. No biggie. Just don't sign for it bro. Good luck.

**STEVO 47** · 12-08-2005, 08:15 PM

Now, let's say here in the US again. If your de****g with a remailer
he is receiving lots of packages from overseas for delivery that too can
raise suspicion. It's a crap shoot.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 09:06 PM

I wont be recieving "lots" of packages per say.

**Deezuhl** · 12-08-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

I wont be recieving "lots" of packages per say.

you missed what stevo meant.. if your guy is a remailer and "he" receives alot of international packages he could be getting watched which in return brings heat to all the packages he sends out.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by thetruth-76

I get you bro! You are ok either way. Your source is out of country but the actual person sending with the gear is in country. You should be as good as getting a domestic delivery. Many overseas are getting to this now. Send a bulk to a control and have it distributed in country. No biggie. Just don't sign for it bro. Good luck.

Cool.

**guest589745** · 12-08-2005, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Deezuhl

you missed what stevo meant.. if your guy is a remailer and "he" receives alot of international packages he could be getting watched which in return brings heat to all the packages he sends out.

I gotcha.