Shrinkage

**andrelee** · 12-10-2005, 02:23 PM

Do your nuts ever get back to their normal size if you experience shrikage during a cycle? Have any of you guys had a bad experience with this side effect?

***SPIKE*** · 12-10-2005, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by andrelee

Do your nuts ever get back to their normal size if you experience shrikage during a cycle? Have any of you guys had a bad experience with this side effect?

Its very common so I'm assuming this is your first cycle right?

With Proper PCT they will come back quicker. Dont worry about it, your boys will be back to normal when you're done.

**shortie** · 12-10-2005, 02:35 PM

They come back.......eventually lol.

**macrophage69alpha** · 12-10-2005, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by andrelee

Do your nuts ever get back to their normal size if you experience shrikage during a cycle? Have any of you guys had a bad experience with this side effect?

it is a normal side effect of suppression of the HPTA and with proper PCT they will typically return to "normal" size or even slightly larger than "normal" size"

some people experience very significant reduction in testicular size, other dont while still experiencing significant suppresssion (shrinkage is not a direct correlary with suppression)

**andrelee** · 12-10-2005, 02:50 PM

Jay what is proper PCT?

**chest6** · 12-10-2005, 02:55 PM

4 weeks clomid 100mg everyday
4 weeks nolva 20mg everyday

It is very dependent on the compounds used, that is just an example. With different compounds, and different doses, there are different variations of "suppression". Some may be less than that, some more.

**Montgomery** · 12-10-2005, 03:07 PM

If one did your recommended PCT of 100 clomid ED and 20 nolva ED for 4 weeks, would natural test production be back to normal by the end of the 4th week, or does it take a few weeks after the cessation of PCT? Does it take longer to restore natural test production after a 20 weeker vs a 12 weeker?

Montgomery

**chest6** · 12-10-2005, 03:16 PM

yes, your HPTA would be shut down longer, and would take more time to bring it back. Normal test production should be coming back around week 3.

***SPIKE*** · 12-10-2005, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by andrelee

Jay what is proper PCT?

This varies. Chest's recommendation was good.

We can talk for pages on this but that's why we're lucky enough to have a PCT forum on AR. Check it out, tons of resources in there. Good luck

LORDBLiTZ · 12-10-2005, 09:58 PM

HCG makes my balls big and fat. I hate clomid.

**sadspider** · 12-10-2005, 10:14 PM

i had e same problem when i was powerlifting 7yrs ago. raisin size nuts....lol. i did 1000 tabs of anabol within 5 months. hcg only make e nuts go bigger temporary...false security. clomid will do e job. now i use tongkat ali for pct. so far so good.

**macrophage69alpha** · 12-11-2005, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ

HCG makes my balls big and fat. I hate clomid.

for best results a three pronged approach
AI
SERM- there is still significant debate over nolva v. clomid
HCG (low dose)

**wolfyEVH** · 12-11-2005, 02:42 AM

why would you be worried about testicle size in the first place???

**macrophage69alpha** · 12-11-2005, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by wolfyEVH

why would you be worried about testicle size in the first place???

some guesses:
1. its a blatant sign of steroid use
2. testicles are sexual organs, having nuts like peanuts may "turn" partner off
3. a hundred other cultural, phsyiological and asthetic reasons

**wolfyEVH** · 12-11-2005, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha

some guesses:
1. its a blatant sign of steroid use
2. testicles are sexual organs, having nuts like peanuts may "turn" partner off
3. a hundred other cultural, phsyiological and asthetic reasons

because everyone is going to check your nut size and say "yep...you're on steroids " .

and i highly doubt any girl is interested in a guys nut size. if she is, she's psycho and needs to be let go.....nut shrinkage, (too the extreme as you're claiming with peanuts) hardly even happens to guys in the first place.

**andrelee** · 12-11-2005, 02:57 PM

I like my nuts, and my girlfriend likes sucking my balls. That's cool if you like rasins for testicles, but I would really like to experience the least amount of side effects as possible. Hey, but to each their own right.

**Papi93** · 12-11-2005, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by andrelee

Do your nuts ever get back to their normal size if you experience shrikage during a cycle? Have any of you guys had a bad experience with this side effect?

For a normal cycle (12 weeks), 100mg of Clomid, 20mg Nolva, and 0.25mg of Arimidex will return atrophied testicles to normal size. With longer duration cycles (20 weeks, etc.) and hardcore shutdown steroids (tren and deca ), you'll need some HCG .