I am stumped with this one....

[Zapp]

I have two friends at the gym who are on a cycle.They have been running it for 7 weeks now. One is taking Test-e, the other is taking Test-e and Deca . The one taking the Test-e has gained 19 lbs, and the one taking Test-e and Deca hasn't gained anything. I think he has even lost a few lbs. I know the one taking the test and dec is eating and training right, so I know that's not the problem.They are taking the same brand of gear and running the same mgs also. I am stumped. What do you guys think the problem is?

[chest6]

I'm with you, stumped.

[Pinnacle]

Here's my questions :

When was the last cycle(time wise)for the Test/Deca subject?

Is his Test dose the same as his last cycle?

Did he happen to run Deca in his last cycle?Was it the same dose?

How can you be certain his caloric in take is sufficient?


~Pinnacle~

[NYC BIG MIKE]

What kind of cycle history do they have? Let's not forget about genetics either. Is the guy who gained no weight doing excessive cardio? Just throwing things out there.

[Zapp]

Here's my questions :

When was the last cycle(time wise)for the Test/Deca subject?

Is his Test dose the same as his last cycle?

Did he happen to run Deca in his last cycle?Was it the same dose?

How can you be certain his caloric in take is sufficient?


~Pinnacle~

Q1....I think he said he did a cycle last year. Sus 250.
Q2...Not sure about that one.
Q3...No..he said he had never run deca.
Q4...He told me what he eats every day.

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Get new friends, it's easier than trying to figure this one out.

[Zapp]

What kind of cycle history do they have? Let's not forget about genetics either. Is the guy who gained no weight doing excessive cardio? Just throwing things out there.

I was thinking about the genetics deal too. I've seen some guys react better to juice than others, but I've never seen a guy not gain a thing. He doesn't do cardio by the way.

[testosterona]

hmmm, i'm with PINN on the dose thing. maybe his last cycle was a big one, i dunno. i'm stumped. gear is legit, eating right, training tough=no gains!?!?! something isn't right...

[Zapp]

Get new friends, it's easier than trying to figure this one out.

Ain't that the truth! I feel sorry for the bro. He is all depressed about it. I can't say that I blame him though.

[testosterona]

is he getting stregth gains at all.? what about labido? are the signs of AAS use noticable at all>?

[superstretch74]

I have two friends at the gym who are on a cycle.They have been running it for 7 weeks now. One is taking Test-e, the other is taking Test-e and Deca. The one taking the Test-e has gained 19 lbs, and the one taking Test-e and Deca hasn't gained anything. I think he has even lost a few lbs. I know the one taking the test and dec is eating and training right, so I know that's not the problem.They are taking the same brand of gear and running the same mgs also. I am stumped. What do you guys think the problem is?

one is fake.........one is real...........lol

[Zapp]

is he getting stregth gains at all.? what about labido? are the signs of AAS use noticable at all>?

He said he was getting a little stronger.....but not much. He looks like he did when he started to me.

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Maybe he's a pussy and not really taking it cuz he is scared of the needle.

[testosterona]

has too be fake gear. or maybe a bad batch. there is no other excuse at all. even if he was eating like shit, he'd still get stronger since testosterone levels are directly linked to stregnth, he'd still gain water and wiegh in heavier. hmmmm, a lttile fishy eh?

[Zapp]

has too be fake gear. or maybe a bad batch. there is no other excuse at all. even if he was eating like shit, he'd still get stronger since testosterone levels are directly linked to stregnth, he'd still gain water and wiegh in heavier. hmmmm, a lttile fishy eh?

I know it's not fake..like I said, the other guy gained 19 lbs off of it. Plus I take that same brand also!!

[testosterona]

tell him he's a weirdo and to go play with his boomerang on the freeway. LOL
i dunno bro...

[Son Of Khadafi]

What were their respective weights and heights when they started. It might just be that the guy on Test&Deca is closer to his genetic limit from previous training.

[Zapp]

I think I will tell him to take 1000mg of test, 5 a-50's a day, 100mg of d-bol and 1000mg of Eq and see if that will help. Think he will grow then?.....lmao

[testosterona]

eh, maybe. LMAO

[Igifuno]

I'm with Zapp.... i think genetics have everything to do with it.

[Froggy]

Its a good mystery...Remember what that "tough old fart" said: "shoot the fat & waste the oil"...What about injection technique???

[Timm1704]

got a mate who is on 200mg deca and 500mg sust EW, he claims his diet is good, and im jabbing him myself. i know he trains hard and is far from his genetic limit. he hasnt gained much at all, got a bloated face but thats all anyone has noticed. im thinking its diet for this dude. altho he has said he has gained 6 pounds from week 3 to week 6, and he is quite tall so that kinda weight gain would be more difficlut to tell. i know this doesnt help your question lol, sorry

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Tall guys always have a problem. I knew this guy who looked FANTASTIC from the front, he was 6'5", 290 lbs and solid. Problem is when he turned sideways the thickness wasn't there in proportion with his frontal view. Alwasy a problem for tall guys.