1st Cycle Stack Check

Hey guys, as my nick connotes, I am a f*ckin' new guy at this. I have done some research here at the site, and arrived at a stack that seems to work within the constraints placed on me at this time. Those constraints are:

1. Test Prop, Deca, D-Bol, and Nolvadex are all I got.

2. The amounts attainable neccessitate smaller injections.

Anyway, here is what I've come up with. Please advise.

Prop 50 mg. ed wks. 1-12
Deca 300 mg. opw wks. 1-10
D-Bol 30 mg. ed wksk. 1-6
Nolvadex 20 mg. ed wks. 1-12

How's that for a first cycle?

FNG

if you can only get prop and you don't mind injecting for 12 week's

run only test prop at 75mg ed for 12 week's that's it you don't need anything else on your first cycle

in ur first cycle u will gain much even with only test.
Prop must be injected more frequently and since ur a newbie i would suggest 12 weeks Test enathate.
It's wise to use only one compound for 1st cycle but if u really want to make a stack d-bol/test e would be great.
D-bol should be run ed 30 mg/day for 4-5 weeks.
Testosterone Enanthate/300 - 500 mg from week1-12
PCT nolva 20 mg ed and clomid 100 mg ed compo forr about 30 days
Also u better run nolva since start of cycle in case of gyno at 10-20 mg ed

test only for first cycle, you be be better off with a longer acting test at 500mg per week for 10-12 week,

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Originally Posted by marcus300

test only for first cycle, you be be better off with a longer acting test at 500mg per week for 10-12 week,

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strongly agree with marcus mate,test only for your 1st cycle normally a longer actin ester like test e or cyp,i prefer test e although there aint much difference!
you have not mentioned pct or anti's for the cycle?

Just out of curiousity, what happens to someone when they do more than just test for a first cycle? What are the ramifications of such behavior? :wg:

Thanks, FNG

test only mate,see how you react to that by itself then start addin other compounds in later cycles,if you were to throw in two or three compounds straight away you wont know how or which one is doin wat for you??also if you got a bad reaction off of watever you were takin how would you know wat was doin it?

maybe we can get some stats from him first before we gaive him any advice like, AGE, training exp., and height and weight. who knows he could be 18 only trained for 6 months. he has already admitted to being new so maybe he should look at staying natural for a while first, just my 2 cents.

Stats:

1. Age 34
2. Been working out for 4 years.
3. 6'4"
4. 220 lbs.
5. Hardgainer

glad to hear that your not 18 with 6 months training exp. i wasnt trying to be a dick its just i wanna give you sound advice. i totally agree with everyone just run a test only cycle first for this one then once you know how you react and are a little more experienced you can start to add other compounds. i have about 5 years cycle and training under my belt now and i am going to be running the cycle yiour thinking about doing and it took me that long to work up to it.

Well, I'm taking your advice and going with Prop (.75mg ed/12wks, Dbol 30mg ed/4 wks, and Nolva (?). Now, I'm a bit confused about the timing of the Nolva. When do I start and stop that? Also, what is pct? And, is there an over-the-counter alternative to Clomid?

Incredibly appreciative, FNG :7up:

Buhbump!

i am no expert on pct ( post cycle therapy ) but as for the nolva i would run it 10mg ed as it is better to stop any gyno and keep your h2o retention down as soon as possible. as for the rest of your pct look in the pct forum and you'll definitly find all you need to know and more. this is what my pct was going to look like when i ran my prop, deca, dbol cycle,
3 days after my last shot:
300mg clomid, 40mg nolva this is day one
day 2-7 100mg clomid, 40mg nolva
day8-21 100mg clomid, 20mg nolva
day 22-30 50mg clomid, 20mg nolva

Hope this helps
PEACE WEBBNB