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    comp cyle review.. serious only

    Here's the plan.. let me know what u think

    26 weeks out
    600 test E
    600 Deca

    16 weeks out
    400 EQ
    100 test P EOD

    8 weeks out
    86 tren EOD
    100 test P EOD
    winny ED

    Thanks guys

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    whats with the EOD? why not ED?

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    Why Test e= Deca ?

    Should be Test>Deca

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    he may be going with every cc of test/cc of deca

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    i hope u dont think that test P will give u leaner gains than test E

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitfire
    Here's the plan.. let me know what u think

    26 weeks out
    600 test E
    600 Deca

    16 weeks out
    400 EQ
    100 test P EOD

    8 weeks out
    86 tren EOD
    100 test P EOD
    winny ED

    Thanks guys
    Looks ok, i would prefer the prop and tren ED but thats not a real big deal. I would make sure that the prop is cut out at least 10 days from the show, letro zole would also be a useful addition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearljam
    i hope u dont think that test P will give u leaner gains than test E
    Its a pre contest cycle, he is not using the prop for leaner gains, actually chances are he wont gain anything while dieting, the prop is used to minimise water retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    Its a pre contest cycle, he is not using the prop for leaner gains, actually chances are he wont gain anything while dieting, the prop is used to minimise water retention.

    negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearljam
    negative
    Negative please elaborate.

    If you disagree that prop causes less water retention than enanthate fair enough thats just personal opinion there is no science to prove if it does are doesnt.

    Another advantage of using prop instead of enanthate is that you can discontinue use of the prop closer to show time and not have to worry about the long half life of enanthate.

    Happy now.

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    i would go with 600 test e and only 300-400 deca imo.
    at 8 weeks just drop the eq to 200mg and keep it till about a week out from the show, assuming the winny is pills run it right up to the day of the show if not drop it 3 days out, depending how badly you hold h2o i would drop the prop at 1-2 week out, also at 8 weeks you should start taking nolva 20mg ed to help with h2o retention, also where is your clen ?
    hope this helps
    PEACE WEBBNB

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    Thanks for the replies..
    I always read test greater than or equal to..?

    Prop/Tren ED.. I'll consider it but do they not release over a couple days? Plus I'll feel like a pincushion already.

    The Prop is for water and to be able to stop short of show. Plus Ill be pushing the Tren anyway.. and I like to mix the tren and prop.. seems to knock down the props sting.

    Nolva will be used as needed. Arimidex final week.

    Yes WEBB.. the clen will be there.. though I hate that shit.. makes me stutter..lol

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    Negative please elaborate.

    If you disagree that prop causes less water retention than enanthate fair enough thats just personal opinion there is no science to prove if it does are doesnt.

    Another advantage of using prop instead of enanthate is that you can discontinue use of the prop closer to show time and not have to worry about the long half life of enanthate.

    Happy now.

    scientific evidence the scientific evidence is that its the same hormone with different esters therefore the only difference is the half life. ex 500mg of prop and 500mg of test E will do the same if there are constant levels of the exo test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearljam
    scientific evidence the scientific evidence is that its the same hormone with different esters therefore the only difference is the half life. ex 500mg of prop and 500mg of test E will do the same if there are constant levels of the exo test.
    water bloat is caused by estrogen, and other things. but if you ask around you will find that there is far more bloat with test-e than prop. on test-e I will bloat about 9-11 lbs. with prop about 3 to 5lbs
    it might not be scientific proof, but proof is in the pudding

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