prop for beginners

**baseketball10** · 12-14-2005, 03:49 PM

It was recently suggested to me that prop will give me some of the best strength gains. I am looking to start my first cycle and was wondering if prop would be ok for first cycle and at what amounts. Also what stacks well with prop? Thanks

**vein-x** · 12-14-2005, 03:58 PM

This is my exact cycle. It's a little much for a 1st cycle, but halfway through week 2 is not a good place to stop

CYCLE
Test Enan @ 600mg/week for weeks 1-13 x 2 injections on Mon & Thurs
EQ @ 600mg week 1-12 x 2 injections on Mon & Thurs (mixed in with Test Enan)
Test Prop @ 150mg/EOD weeks 1-4 and weeks 14-15
(less PROP injections = less "pain in the ass" You'll see what I mean...)

PCT
Nolva @ 40mg ED for weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 20mg ED for weeks 18-19
Clomid @ 200mg first 2 days, then @ 100mg for the remaining 2-4 (however long I feel is necessary)

**Born Threat** · 12-14-2005, 03:59 PM

Not good for beginners due to frequent injections. Start off with a longer estered testosterone that only has to be injected 1-2 times weekly.

**lucabratzi** · 12-14-2005, 03:59 PM

as long as u dont care about ed or eod injects and the pain from prop go for it. 500mg/wk by itself for 8 weeks woudl be good.

**lucabratzi** · 12-14-2005, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by vein-x

This is my exact cycle. It's a little much for a 1st cycle, but halfway through week 2 is not a good place to stop

CYCLE
Test Enan @ 600mg/week for weeks 1-13 x 2 injections on Mon & Thurs
EQ @ 600mg week 1-12 x 2 injections on Mon & Thurs (mixed in with Test Enan)
Test Prop @ 150mg/EOD weeks 1-4 and weeks 14-15
(less PROP injections = less "pain in the ass" You'll see what I mean...)

PCT
Nolva @ 40mg ED for weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 20mg ED for weeks 18-19
Clomid @ 200mg first 2 days, then @ 100mg for the remaining 2-4 (however long I feel is necessary)

why'd u go so hardcore on ur first cycle...