The Ideal Stack/Cycle?

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

what do you think about this for minimal water retention/ cutting?

doses are low for fear of liver and w.r. problems, and anti-E will be considered
just lookin to harden up and get a little size, i'm intermediate so whatever you expect my gains to be would be great and appreciated knowledge


Week 1- 500mg Sustanon , 200mg Primo, 200mg Deca
Week 2- 500mg Sustanon, 200mg Primo, 200mg Deca
Week 3- 500mg Sustanon, 200mg Primo, 200mg Deca, 150mg Winny
Week 4- 500mg Sustanon, 200mg Primo, 200mg Deca, 150mg Winny
Week 5- 500mg Sustanon, 200mg Primo, 200mg Deca, 150mg Winny
Week 6- 400mg UltraTren, 200mg Prop, 150mg Winny
Week 7- 400mg UltraTren, 200mg Prop, 150mg Winny
Week 8- 400mg UltraTren, 200mg Prop, 150mg Winny
Week 9- 400mg UltraTren, 200mg Prop, 150mg Winny
Week 10- 400mg UltraTren, 200mg Prop, 150mg Winny


Thank you!

[Got Insulin?]

ultra tren ?

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

ULTRA TREN 200
(Generic labs, UK, 10mls, per ml, tren enanthate -100mg/tren acetate-
50mg/tren hexahydrobenzyl-50mg)

Giddy Up

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

thats supposed to be 200mg per ml @ 10ml my bad

[Got Insulin?]

ahh ok similar to tri-tren or whatever from bd. hey, you know how to properly dose the tren right to take advantage of the short esters?

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

ur askin the wrong guy

[Got Insulin?]

hmm looking at it. ill give u 10-15 lbs.

[Got Insulin?]

ok ill be specefic. tren ace in the "ultra" tren is a short ester. in order to take advatage of the long esters "tren ent" and the short. you must shoot this product EOD. same thing with sustanon EOD.

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

what my whole cycle or just the tren ?

[Got Insulin?]

whole cycle.

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

ohk got it I appreciate all the help
a respectable forumer

but overall you think a good cycle for what i'm lookin for?

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just bc the deca takes a while to kick in. the sustanon maybe 2 weeks to kick in. then when u start into the ultra tren . takes a little to kick in too. but dont get me wrong u will make gains. they will be solid too because of the primo and tren.

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

the winny will solidify the mold as well right? and i hear sustanon gains are fairly permanent compared to tests or no?

[Got Insulin?]

i know ur looking for minimal water gains. im keeping that in mind when critiquing this. if ur looking for minimal water gains. lose deca , deca = water. end of story.

week 1-10 test prop 100 mg /ED (this test puts on no water hardly at all)
week 1-10 primo 400 mg per week (primo is more of a cutter)
week 1-10 ultratren dividing the doses into EOD (no water from this at all, may lose some actually you can use tren to cut.)
week 8-10 winny 50 mg EOD

personally the winny isnt needed. everything in that cycle right there does nothing but hardens you up. trust me. with that cycle u will get what u want.

[Got Insulin?]

test is test. it depends on the persons habits and how he runs it.

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

thanks i'll definitely use that info, yea i live by prop the enth ballooned me up like the michelin tireman definitely not what i'm lookin for, i guess i'll look into uping the primo
thanks again

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not really even uping the primo to be honest. average dosages are 200-400 mg.

[Got Insulin?]

seriously with that cycle, the proper diet, and cardio. it should make u look like a stud.

[Got Insulin?]

people will be very jealous. the tren will make ur strength go out the roof. and ull be all ripped and stuff from ur compounds cause none of them hold water.

[alwayzGETTINbigger]

haha giddy up just what i'm lookin for!!!

[Got Insulin?]

thats kinda what i figured after talking to u a bit about what u wanted. lol . once you make good, solid, more hard gains, you dont see the point to water retention anymore.