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    Military Drug Testing

    I need some help and wondering if any one has some info or experience with military drug testing. Im joing the Navy and will be taking a the drug test during my physical next month ..Im on a cycle and wondreing if they test for AS during that drug test or at any other point while in the service.

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    no they dont test for steroids . yes for recreational drugs. some guy who tried to recruit my friend was telling him no matter what he would get in and if he had something in his system he would make sure there wouldnt be anything there.

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    I think your safe, I know Bro that'a in the navy, he told me that there were guys juice and being tested and they had no problem

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    OKay here is the answer...
    I took this off another posting board written by someone else
    hope it helps

    On nearly every board I post, I see questions pertaining to the use of
    AAS in the military. I feel that the record needs to be set straight.
    Having served five years in the Marine Corps (both active and reserve
    components) and worked with the recruiting effort of the Armed Forces
    (I was a recruiter for the Marines and my bro is currently on
    recruiting duty for the National Guard), I feel this is an issue that
    can be accurately addressed. Please note that at each command, there
    is not a 'one size fits all' policy on steroids . So situations may
    vary from depending on the people involved with your unit and the
    history of action against such activity.

    The question I see most commonly asked is, "I'm enlisting in the
    service and I am worried I may pop positive for steroids." Up until
    Andro became illegal, none of the branches tested for performance
    enhancing drugs at the enlistment level. Now, random tests are done
    on 'batches' for any oral type PH or AAS. A batch is a group of
    specimens collected during the enlistment process. The size of the
    batch can depend on the number of enlistees present at MEPS (Military
    Entrance Processing Station) on the day you are there. All specimens
    will be tested for recreational drug use. Moral: be clean of orals on
    your enlistment date.

    So you've raised your right hand and sworn your life away. Unless
    you're a 'direct shipper' (enlistee who leaves for training within 30
    days of enlisting) that is getting on the bus to go to training,
    you'll return to your recruiting office where you'll be free to go and
    do as you please until your recruiters need you, or your time has come
    to ship. This time is critical because if you were on injectables,
    you need to plan ahead for doing proper PCT before shipping. Most
    recruiters will work with you on your ship date. In reality, it
    depends on your job and will be established before you enlist. If you
    are in for mechanic, your recruiter will have several dates where 'bed
    spots' open up at the mechanic school. These are dates that you can
    ship to arrive for training on time in accordance with the demands of
    the military.

    You will not be tested between the time you enlist and the ship date,
    unless your recruiter wants you tested for whatever reason. Most
    recruiters will lie, cheat, and steal to get a contract... so you are
    a goldmine to their career. It's your game, not theirs. I'd say 80%
    of the recruiters I personally know would work with you if you were
    honest and upfront about your steroid use . But you have to remember
    that they aren't as educated on the topic as you may be. Just assure
    them you'll be clean by ship date and you won't do anything to
    jeopardize their contract (they'll love you for that).

    Leaving for basic training: You'll go back up to MEPS where you'll be
    tested again for orals and rec drugs again. If you are on anything by
    shipdate, you have screwed yourself because there will be no time for
    PCT or detox at this point. So be sure to be clean.

    After basic training you'll be off to MOS (Military Occupation Specialty) school, where you'll learn your trade. At MOS school, you will be randomly piss
    tested for orals and are ALWAYS under the watchful eye of Staff NCO's.
    This is no time to use gear of any kind. Although you may pass the
    random urinary analysis, you'll be tested for AAS if you put 20 pounds
    of meat on in a matter of weeks. Better safe than sorry.

    Now you've reached your first duty station. This is where you'll meet
    some of the most influential people in your life and you'll make
    life-time friends here. Chances are you're going to be here for a few
    years, so you should start 'setting up camp' when it comes to your
    steroid use. Hit the military AND civilian gyms to get a feel for the
    area. I still suggest you use a domestic (not local) source and
    NEVER, EVER use the military's postal service. I've had care-packages
    open and ransacked for goodies before using military postal service.
    This is no travel system fit for gear. Use the other civilian
    services and have your package shipped OFF-BASE! When I was at Camp
    Pendleton, gear was shipped to a local supplement store (when we
    weren't driving 30 min to Mexico to get it there) that would charge a
    very small fee to hold packages for you. Just make sure it has YOUR
    name on it (or an identifier only you are known by). Getting gear
    back on-base can be a little tricky. Realize that you are working
    with one of three types of people;
    Military Police
    Civilian Contractors
    Military Personnel serving guard duty
    MP's and Civilians are paid to do a good job (identified by actual
    badges worn on body armor or uniform), and they'll be rewarded for
    busting your ass. So make sure you have a good plan. Dogs are often
    used to sniff out rec drugs, so make sure your source sells gear alone
    (traces of rec drugs can tip off dogs). The best place I found was in
    the door panel of my truck, but there are other more innovative places
    to transit gear. If they aren't MP's or contractors, they're just
    misc. military personnel there pulling 'shit-duty' (identified by
    playing cards and not paying attention to the gate - think I'm
    kidding?). You could get an RPG passed these schmucks. No worries
    there. Remember though, they have authorized use of deadly force so
    do not run if you're caught. Wait and call Rick Collins.

    You managed to get your gear back to the barracks and you're in need
    of a place to store it. There are different kinds of living
    conditions for the low-ranking service member. There's squadbays (big
    open huts with rows of bunk beds), barracks (big open huts with
    partitions to create separate rooms), and dormitories (just like
    college dorms). If you're in a squadbay or a barracks, you'll
    probably have a better chance of storing your steroids in your field
    gear or at the work site. This varies too much from place to place to
    really define a preference. Dorms are relatively easy to hide gear
    in. You will, however, have "Health and Comfort" inspections where
    your room is turned upside down. Unfortunately, these aren't
    scheduled and can be as random as Kansas weather. Make sure your gear
    is mobile (not in a safe or a big lock box) so that you can snatch it
    up and move it quickly should this occur. Even if you are an E-6 and
    living on base-housing with your family, you can still be inspected by
    your commander (this isn't a well known fact, but I've personally
    witnessed this happening).

    Physical Fitness Tests: You're physical prowess will be gauged by a
    PFT and your promotions will depend on how well you do. You do not,
    however, want to over do it and make yourself obvious to suspicion.
    My good friend set a base record by doing 68 pull-ups and was tested
    for steroids, when all he had to do was 20 to get a perfect score for
    the event. The theory in the military is; look good on paper, and
    look sharp in person.

    Testing in the Fleet or active duty forces: You will be tested for
    drug use by the base or unit SACO (substance abuse counsellor /
    officer). These tests are supposed to be random, but if you're not in
    good standing with your superiors you'll be singled out. I was
    suspected for steroid use and my SACO asked the administration chief
    what the last digit in my social security number was. Ending in "3",
    the SACO had all the Marines whose socials ended in 3 and 5 tested.
    This is a loop-hole around having 'random' tests. Per DOD order, 10%
    of a unit will be randomly tested each quarter (for rec drugs and
    orals).

    Testing in the Reserve or Guard forces: Your SACO will test 10% of
    your unit for rec drugs and orals every drill (monthly). Reservists
    and Guardsmen are tested more frequently than their active duty
    counter-parts.

    Your fluctuation in weight and size will be expensive when it comes to
    tailoring uniforms. The best way to get caught for steroids is to
    pass your Alpha-uniform inspection in the fall and then not be able to
    get into it in the spring. Make certain you're uniforms are tailored
    to fit at all times.

    Do not openly discuss your use even with friends. In the military,
    the only trustworthy friend to a steroid user, is another steroid
    user.

    Remember, you are ultimately responsible for yourself.

    Stay safe,
    Kroms

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    When I took my piss test at meps for USMC they told us they were only testing for cocaine and marijuana. They didn't mention AS or anything else. Just be careful.

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    Thanks for the help guys... but if i understand Bulkcut right they do test for oral AS's at the time of enlistment and this might be a problem due to what i am taking... so am i correct in saying that the orals are tested for and should try and cut them out or did i misunderstand the post and will be fine with the orals in my system. And the injectables should not be a problem regardless.

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    i'm at a military school and they had me do a test to get in, its just for street drugs, (cocaine, weed, ...) never had a problem with it, i was just finishing up pct when they tested me. i don't konw about the navy, but in the AF they havnt tested myself of anyone else for juice as far as i know. i was under the impression they could only test you for juice if they susspected usage. the tests are expensive, so they are not going to be able to run everyone through the tests for juice, good luck. on the physical you got nothing to worry about they are all DODMERB and just the standard stuff. during your basic though, there is almost no way, to get away with it, don't even try. after things calm down and you get to your duty station just be carefull and don't tell anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye1877
    i'm at a military school and they had me do a test to get in, its just for street drugs, (cocaine, weed, ...) never had a problem with it, i was just finishing up pct when they tested me. i don't konw about the navy, but in the AF they havnt tested myself of anyone else for juice as far as i know. i was under the impression they could only test you for juice if they susspected usage. the tests are expensive, so they are not going to be able to run everyone through the tests for juice, good luck. on the physical you got nothing to worry about they are all DODMERB and just the standard stuff. during your basic though, there is almost no way, to get away with it, don't even try. after things calm down and you get to your duty station just be carefull and don't tell anyone
    hey do you ever get blood work done to check your levels? for natural test production and all the other stuff? bY a military doc?

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    haven't yet by the military docs, but i know they will do it for you confidentially for you if you ask. I'm planning to go into the med program

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    i was prior service they only test for weed and coke

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    i am active duty Navy and here's the deal--

    your skipper can request that a test be done for steroids , but they will NEVER randomly test for it. i actually believed they did, but it even says they don't on the Navy's drug testing website. roids are used SO much in the Navy, it's nuts. no one's popped yet and we get tested all the time. just be smart and don't go crazy. watch your growth and temper and no one will care.

    they WILL test for thc, cocaine, amphetamines, ecstasy, and they will randomly test for opiates and barbituates.

    ~~save a tree, eat a beaver~~

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    does anybody have any information on whether the RAF of the UK will test for AAS?

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    I think it is rediculous they care about steroid use in the military. I can see them not wanting some coke heads but a bunch of jacked out fighters never caused any problems.

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    Hey man i am in the army and they don't test some of my best friends & new rec... i maen why would they not let you in if you are using something that will help you! and some other people do some other drugs (the bad stuff) they no one give 2 shats at the base

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefyman
    Hey man i am in the army and they don't test some of my best friends & new rec... i maen why would they not let you in if you are using something that will help you! and some other people do some other drugs (the bad stuff) they no one give 2 shats at the base
    Why not? Because it doesn't help you if you are doing it wrong. Most new recruits are like from 18 - 20 They don't need steriods at that age. If anything goes wrong because military says "its okay to use steriods" then military will have to be responsible for any serious problem down the road(Veterans Affairs).
    I did know a guy about 31 years of age got prescribed some crap called Testastrone-1 gel or something by the military doctors because his natural levels dropped i am guessing. But the guy was fat and had hard time doing PT.

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    They can and will test for AAS in the AF but this is probably the last thing they test for. Not sure about the other branches. Like it has been mentioned, if you blow up then more than likely you will get tested. Been through MEPS, BASIC, and OCS(abeit almost 6 years ago) Just be smart with it. In 4 years of active never heard of a random roid test but have known a couple of boys getting busted for gaining 40 lbs of muscle(not all muscle but) in about a year. Could have been they opened their jaws to much too. But good luck anyhow.
    Still have a bunch of buddies in if you want me to look into it.
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