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    2004 handbook?? what the?

    they reccomend as a first/mass cycle to do deca n dbol , NO TEST!! why is this???

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    no thoughts????

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    2004... maybe thats why in itself

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    people have different opinions on different cycles. that's why

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    building the perfect beast is in love with deca without test. ive noticed this in a few research areas.

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    yea i downloaded the beast also... weird

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    well my main reason for asking this was i am going to run test e for 12 weeks, would it be beneficial to jump start it with 4 weeks of d-bol, n is this ok for my first cycle

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    nah i wouldnt fool with the d bol ur first cycle. your gains off test alone will be enough trust me.

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    test for your first one would be fine but you will find a lot of test w/dbol jump starts for the first around here.

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    I noticed some weird sh!!!t too.

    I noticed that too, I did enjoy the FINA(tren ) step by step guide.

    Did you notice in BEAST that he recommends 4 week cyccles BIG TIME? I've always been taught to stick with 10-12 weekers.

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