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12-15-2005, 10:54 AM #1Associate Member
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cardio + AAS
i was thinking of doing cardio every morning while on cutting cycle of test susp and winny.... need i drink whey isolate shake before cardio..or just do it in totally empty stomach? many people recommend to drink whey shake.. but then again..they are natural..
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12-15-2005, 10:59 AM #2
alot of people say just empty stomach, but next cuttin period ima drink protein before. just make sure there's no carbs in it..
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12-15-2005, 11:02 AM #3AR Hall of Fame
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If you want to risk gluconeogenisis and burning of amino acids (protein) for fuel, then go ahead.
If your nutritional protocol is impeccable the other 23 hours of the day and you are doing the correct form of cardio for lipolysis, you need not have anything before cardio.
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12-15-2005, 11:22 AM #4Originally Posted by SwoleCat
Exactly, this will do absolutely nothing. Protein before cardio is worthless. Plus if you are on cycle muscle loss won't be an issue.
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12-15-2005, 11:44 AM #5Originally Posted by xxterxx
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12-15-2005, 11:46 AM #6Originally Posted by FranKieC
Again, this is pointless. Glutamine is worthless on top of all that.
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12-15-2005, 11:53 AM #7Originally Posted by Giantz11
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12-15-2005, 12:18 PM #8
For a LONG but thorough debate on the merits of early morning fasted cardio, see here: http://www.t - nation.com/readTopic.do?id=835725
[note - due to url filtering, you'll need to remove the spaces before and after the hyphen in the above url]Last edited by Maetenloch; 12-15-2005 at 12:21 PM.
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12-15-2005, 12:24 PM #9Associate Member
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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12-15-2005, 12:45 PM #10Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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12-15-2005, 01:05 PM #11Originally Posted by stupidhippo
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12-15-2005, 01:16 PM #12Anabolic Member
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thanks giant.. one more thing .. does this AM cardio have to be low intensity or will it turn catabolic otherwise.. I like doing my cardio so that the first 20 minutes is high intensity so that I could increase my aerobic performance..
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12-15-2005, 01:23 PM #13Originally Posted by Giantz11
Perfectly said
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12-15-2005, 01:40 PM #14
Empty stomach is what i've always heard, but I wouldnt do it. Protein before is a good idea.
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12-15-2005, 01:41 PM #15Anabolic Member
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conflicting opinion ok.. but some reasoning behind please..
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12-15-2005, 01:49 PM #16Originally Posted by stupidhippo
Yes keep the intensity low or you will risk muscle loss. If you want to do Higher intensity's just make sure you eat a nice pro/carb meal before hand and if you're short on time, you could easily do a shake.
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12-15-2005, 01:49 PM #17Originally Posted by fanatic
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12-15-2005, 02:11 PM #18Originally Posted by fanatic
You must have not read half of this thread huh?
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12-15-2005, 02:13 PM #19Originally Posted by stupidhippo
If looking for fat loss always remember duration over intensity. By running a little bit longer over a managable speed you will burn more fat and preserve muscle. That's why heart rate is so dearly important to monitor.......
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12-15-2005, 02:14 PM #20
always done cardio 1st thing on an empty stomache!!!
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12-15-2005, 02:18 PM #21Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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12-15-2005, 04:26 PM #22Originally Posted by stupidhippo
OK, here's what i think of that. Those first high intensity 20 minutes will hopefully result in depleting Glyco stores in your body. Thus making way for fat loss when performing another 20-25 minutes of low intensity. OK thats good but here is what I think is better. Doing a low intensity (THR) cardio regimen after resistence training. Therefore after training you will already be glyco depleted and ready to burn some fat. BUT that is for work out days. You may just be referring to a non workout day. Or do you do this all the time Hippo?
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12-20-2005, 02:16 PM #23Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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