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    enanthate and cyp have diff active lives?

    I read that enathate has an active life of about 8 days, while cyp stays active for about 14. Is this true? I know everyone seems to say that they're out of your system ast the same time.

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    Cyp has an extra carbon attached which make the active life just a tad longer.Enanthate and Cyp are identical in structure except for what I previously mentioned.It's about a 4 day difference.

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    so, what are the exact active lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tallyjuice
    so, what are the exact active lives?
    I'm confused on this,and I've always been confused.

    I've seen it posted where it states enanthate is 10 days,and Cyp is 14 days.

    I've also seen it posted where enanthate is 14 days,and cyp is 18 days.

    I've always chosen the latter to be on the safe side.Although it certainly would be nice to have a definite.

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    The truth is 14-18. it all depends on how your body reacts to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    The truth is 14-18. it all depends on how your body reacts to it.
    The half-life depends on "how your body reacts to it" ?


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    yes

    Everyone body will process thing different.

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    the ester is just how it is time released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    The half-life depends on "how your body reacts to it" ?

    You couldn't see it and not see it huh? This whole cyp/enth debate is a bit confusing to say the least. The cyp ester only has 1 carbon more (1 carbon = 1.5 days active life. I may be dead wrong tho) so I don't know where these other numbers are coming from.

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    Ester Half-Life

    Formate 1.5 days
    Acetate 3 days
    Propionate 4.5 days
    Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
    Butyrate 6 days
    Valerate 7.5 days
    Hexanoate 9 days
    Caproate 9 days
    Isocaproate 9 days
    Heptanoate 10.5 days
    Enanthate 10.5 days
    Octanoate 12 days
    Cypionate 12 days
    Nonanoate 13.5 days
    Decanoate 15 days
    Undecanoate 16.5 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    yes

    Everyone body will process thing different.
    Thus.. it isn't the half-life that differs from individual to individual...rather, the metabolism of the target drug

    Are you calling me out?

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    Uh-oh gsxxr hurt Nark's feelings. Ha looking at that chart looks like a may be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    Thus.. it isn't the half-life that differs from individual to individual...rather, the metabolism of the target drug

    Are you calling me out?
    why are you getting defensive???

    The bodies metabolism will differ from to person.
    Last edited by G-1000; 12-16-2005 at 11:03 PM.

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    so the active lives are 21 and 24??? Why don't we start clomid on these days???

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    What do you mean. if the half life is 21 days that means you have half the amount in you system. you dont wont to start pct till the compound is out of your system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    why are you getting defensive???

    The bodies metabolism will differ from to person.


    Ease up mang.. Don't misconstrue it as defensiveness.

    On my part, i obviously misread the intent of your post.

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    That was my fault i'm getting tired and lazy. i should have put more thought into my explanation

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    Maybe I'm missing something. The half lives are 10.5 and 12, respectively. That means enanthate will be out in 21 days and and cyp in 24. Everyone always says to start clomid two weeks after discontinuance. Are you guys seeing what I'm getting at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    That was my fault i'm getting tired and lazy. i should have put more thought into my explanation
    can we hug and make up now?

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    c'mon you guys, dont gross me out.. LOL

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    no answer, come on?

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