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    check out this B-12

    Just got these...looks potent
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    what is b12 used for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone30
    Just got these...looks potent
    whats the mg amount?

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    I have no idea..lol..50ug/ml..Im trying to figure it out now..I think its some kinda conversion..just told to by partner to use 1ml per inj..so Im trying to figure out the mg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone30
    I have no idea..lol..50ug/ml..Im trying to figure it out now..I think its some kinda conversion..just told to by partner to use 1ml per inj..so Im trying to figure out the mg?
    can you pm the source to me, thanks

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    The ones i have are 1g per 2ml........nice addition to a cycle
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    Vitamin B12 (50ug/Ml)
    Injectable Cyanocobalamina Cobalamin 50 gamma (Micrograms)/Ml Box of 5 vials of 1Ml:
    US$ 9.95

    so is that 50mcg per ml?

    if so that sucks

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    I shot my sust with B12.. but it didnt look like that stuff.....

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    well if anyone has taken grade 9 science youd know that thats micrograms 50mcg/ml. lol 1g per ml is way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    Vitamin B12 (50ug/Ml)
    Injectable Cyanocobalamina Cobalamin 50 gamma (Micrograms)/Ml Box of 5 vials of 1Ml:
    US$ 9.95

    so is that 50mcg per ml?

    if so that sucks
    that doesnt really suck that much,i mean your body doesnt use a lot of b12 to begin with since it recycles a large part of the b12 you already have in your body. for example i know that 2mg of B6 100% of your daily recommended intake. i can only imagine that b12 is similar. But really who uses B12 for the sake of the B12, id only use it for cutting other compounds anyway.

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    can you drink and inject b 12 if you choose on doing so??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN
    that doesnt really suck that much,i mean your body doesnt use a lot of b12 to begin with since it recycles a large part of the b12 you already have in your body. for example i know that 2mg of B6 100% of your daily recommended intake. i can only imagine that b12 is similar. But really who uses B12 for the sake of the B12, id only use it for cutting other compounds anyway.

    well i take daily sublingual b12 at 2500mcg , so a 50mcg shot seems pointless to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100m champ
    can you drink and inject b 12 if you choose on doing so??
    Yes, but its much cheaper just to get some b12 supps down at your pharmacy or something. The point of the injection is to increase bioavailibilty. My doctor never prescribes b12 and my grandmom's doctor just has her taking oral b12. So unless you want to cut an AAS, forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    Yes, but its much cheaper just to get some b12 supps down at your pharmacy or something. The point of the injection is to increase bioavailibilty. My doctor never prescribes b12 and my grandmom's doctor just has her taking oral b12. So unless you want to cut an AAS, forget it.

    well then you prove my point, i paid 5 bucks for 75 sublingual - 2500mcg tabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    well then you prove my point, i paid 5 bucks for 75 sublingual - 2500mcg tabs
    i paid $1 for 1,000,000 50mg tabs whats your point???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN
    i paid $1 for 1,000,000 50mg tabs whats your point???
    im just saying its cheaper then injectable b 12 and id say almost equally effective

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    it does suck just get a 30 ml vial a *****.com 1000mcg /ml http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=52
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    So whats the verdict..Im confused..whats a ug/ml?...Will I never know..Who is this smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone30
    So whats the verdict..Im confused..whats a ug/ml?...Will I never know..Who is this smart
    sorry I have no clue what I'm talking about
    Last edited by RUI-Products; 12-18-2005 at 09:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    verdict is, dont get injectable b12, just get oral
    Why do you read study after study saying injectable b-12 is showing leaps and bounds in he****g aids patiants anemia alchoholism whatever..the list goes on and on and the orals didnt do jack in these studys?

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    no that isn't the verdict ...B12 is not absorbed by the body when supplemented orally .....the b12 you got is a very low mcg /ml B12 is very important for cell dna replication and muscle tissue growth.

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    Vitamin B12 and the metabolic rate



    Vitamin B12, also known as cobalamin, is naturally found in food such as fish, milk and milk products, eggs, meat and poultry. Fortified breakfast cereals are another source of vitamin B12 and a valuable source for vegetarians. Vitamin B12 is important for good health, necessary for the proper digestion and absorption of foods and for normal metabolism of carbohydrates, and fat. It helps maintain healthy nerve cells and red blood cells and is needed to make DNA. Vitamin B12 is bound to the protein in food. Hydrochloric acid in the stomach releases B12 from protein during digestion.
    Vitamin B12 was isolated from a liver extracted in 1948 and identified as the nutritional factor in liver that prevented pernicious anemia, a deadly type of anemia characterized by large, immature red blood cells. In order to absorb the small amounts of vitamin B12 found in food, the stomach secretes intrinsic factor, a special digestive secretion that increases the absorption of vitamin B12 in the small intestine. Unlike other water-soluble nutrients, vitamin B12 is stored in the liver, kidney, and other body tissues. It can take several years before signs of the deficiency appear, all because of poor dietary intake.
    Vitamin B12 functions as a "methyl donor." A methyl donor is a compound that carries and donates methyl groups to other molecules, including cell membrane components and neurotransmitters. As a methyl donor vitamin B12 is involved in homocysteine metabolism and plays a critical role in proper energy metabolism, immune function, and nerve function. Therefore, vitamin B12 is clearly an added benefit for anyone wanting to lose weight, as without it, metabolism is not at its peak potential.

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    Vitamin B12

    Introduction -- Functions --

    Introduction

    Vitamin B12 is a member of the vitamin B complex. It contains cobalt, and so is also known as cobalamin. It is exclusively synthesised by bacteria and is found primarily in meat, eggs and dairy products. There has been considerable research into proposed plant sources of vitamin B12. Fermented soya products, seaweeds, and algae such as spirulina have all been suggested as containing significant B12. However, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources. Many vegan foods are supplemented with B12. Vitamin B12 is necessary for the synthesis of red blood cells, the maintenance of the nervous system, and growth and development in children. Deficiency can cause anaemia. Vitamin B12 neuropathy, involving the degeneration of nerve fibres and irreversible neurological damage, can also occur.

    Functions

    Vitamin B12's primary functions are in the formation of red blood cells and the maintenence of a healthy nervous system. B12 is necessary for the rapid synthesis of DNA during cell division. This is especially important in tissues where cells are dividing rapidly, particularly the bone marrow tissues responsible for red blood cell formation. This is important for muscle tissue growth.If B12 deficiency occurs, DNA production is disrupted and abnormal cells called megaloblasts occur. This results in anaemia. Symptoms include excessive tiredness, breathlessness, listlessness, pallor, and poor resistance to infection. Other symptoms can include a smooth, sore tongue and menstrual disorders. Anaemia may also be due to folic acid deficiency, folic acid also being necessary for DNA synthesis.

    B12 is also important in maintaining the nervous system. Nerves are surrounded by an insulating fatty sheath comprised of a complex protein called myelin. B12 plays a vital role in the metabolism of fatty acids essential for the maintainence of myelin. Prolonged B12 deficiency can lead to nerve degeneration and irreversible neurological damage.
    When deficiency occurs, it is more commonly linked to a failure to effectively absorb B12 from the intestine rather than a dietary deficiency. Absorption of B12 requires the secretion from the cells lining the stomach of a glycoprotein, known as intrinsic factor. The B12-intrinsic factor complex is then absorbed in the ileum (part of the small intestine) in the presence of calcium. Certain people are unable to produce intrinsic factor and the subsequent pernicious anaemia is treated with injections of B12.
    Vitamin B12 can be stored in small amounts by the body. Total body store is 2-5mg in adults. Around 80% of this is stored in the liver.

    Vitamin B12 is excreted in the bile and is effectively reabsorbed. This is known as enterohepatic circulation. The amount of B12 excreted in the bile can vary from 1 to 10ug (micrograms) a day. People on diets low in B12, including vegans and some vegetarians, may be obtaining more B12 from reabsorption than from dietary sources. Reabsorption is the reason it can take over 20 years for deficiency disease to develop in people changing to diets absent in B12. In comparison, if B12 deficiency is due to a failure in absorption it can take only 3 years for deficiency disease to occur.

    B12 has very low toxicity and high intakes are not thought to be dangerous.

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    thanks lion..Ill be gettin some of your 30ml soon enough bro

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    The our b12 is what Lion Nutrition was founded on. If you search the new I have written expensively on it's importance. THe product you bought may be a great product. THe mg's are just low. Our B12 is human grade and is painless.

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    If too much B12 is used, one side affect that I have been involved with is a the swelling of the tongue and throat. In the event of the swelling, I was snoring like a damn beast ans was waking myself up at night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion
    no that isn't the verdict ...B12 is not absorbed by the body when supplemented orally .....
    This is not 100% accurate. There is a part of the small intestine that absorbs B12 in is near the illium. I know this as the part that absorbs B12 was removed from my gastric tract. So I have to supplement with at least 1000iu injected per month minimum.

    But in all fairness very little does get through even if supplementing orally or sublingually everyday. Lions prices are great if you do not have insurance to pay(or doc to give script) for the pharmacy stuff. Thanks lion for putting out quality products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jray1der
    If too much B12 is used, one side affect that I have been involved with is a the swelling of the tongue and throat. In the event of the swelling, I was snoring like a damn beast ans was waking myself up at night!
    You may be allergic to something as studies show people with anemia can take 1000iu everyday injected. Are you taking injectable, oral, or sublingual? It may be something mixed with it not the B12 itself.

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    I am using injectable from my Doctor. It was explained to me by Doc that for some people this reaction does occur, but not for all, but it should be made aware to those who do take larger than recommended doses of B12 that in case they do have such side affects they will at least know what would be causing that particular effect. And for treatment for ailments, slim to none sides due to their b12 deficiency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    You may be allergic to something as studies show people with anemia can take 1000iu everyday injected. Are you taking injectable, oral, or sublingual? It may be something mixed with it not the B12 itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jray1der
    I am using injectable from my Doctor. It was explained to me by Doc that for some people this reaction does occur, but not for all, but it should be made aware to those who do take larger than recommended doses of B12 that in case they do have such side affects they will at least know what would be causing that particular effect.
    I just learned something new, as my doctor said it is just vitamins... I bet the # of people who have this reaction is extremely small. Sorry to hear you fit into the microcosm of those people. Breathing is essential to living.

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    Very good quality product. i started using lion's b-12 in august as a supplement to help feel less fatigued & what not & had great results w/ it. i am more energized, alert, & feel healthy in the gym. i will be purchasing some clen , clomid, & nolv. this week. thanks lion

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    of course even too much of some vitamins can cause some serious damage. But maybe I am part of a small group, but believe me Bro, I wouldnt be saying this to play the scare tactic game. Just wanna share my experiences thats all. No offense intended.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    I just learned something new, as my doctor said it is just vitamins... I bet the # of people who have this reaction is extremely small. Sorry to hear you fit into the microcosm of those people. Breathing is essential to living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jray1der
    of course even too much of some vitamins can cause some serious damage.
    Some being the key... B6, E, etc... B12 is typically not in that catagory.

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