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    Need help with 1st cycle

    I have been researching a lot of posts in the last month so before I made any decisions on what to go with I read up and found what the general consensus was. This is not my first time working out and I am not some puny guy with unrealistic goals( I'm 6'6 285lbs 16% bf) and I do play D1 college level sports. I have acquired some things from a reliable buddy who has been doing cycles for years so I am not worried about getting fake stuff. I am just looking for someone to map out for me exactly how to take what and when. With detection times and everything I have the perfect amount of time for a 6 week cycle. So without further adue:

    Test Suspension- 20ml/100mg
    Dbol - 5 mg tabs
    Winstrol - 50 mg tabs

    What I am looking for is basically what days to take what(Ive read a lot of posts so generally Im thinking test x2ed and take in around 40-50 mg of dbol) and what times of the days would be most effective. Again I am not totally clueless on this topic but I have found a lot of respect for the majority of posters on here with my readings and would really appreciate your help. I am looking to start in the next day or so, so any input would be great.

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    Take the test 12hours apart(boring IMO), Split the d bol and win up in 5 doses troughout the day..

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    what kind of gains are you lookiing for. also 2 17aa staroids on teh same cycle is going to be hard on teh liver. d-bol and test susp is going to give a hell of a lot of water bloat.

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    I`m a bit tired now... sorry.. Don`t take both d bol and win for 6 weeks. Leave out the d bol IMO...

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    Gra- How much test should be taken in each shot? If I take .5cc each time will that be enough or should I take more?

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    what is you goal

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    gsxxr- I am looking to gain strength/mass on this cycle. I am trying to drop a few bf% but realistically I am just looking to bulk up more

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    I am not trying to win a bodybuilding title after this cycle but if I train hard what would be a realistic goal?

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    then you have all the wrong compounds. you sould be looaking at test prop and var.


    I did not see you were just trying to bulk. for get this
    Last edited by G-1000; 12-18-2005 at 11:35 AM.

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    gsxxr- what will I get with what I have then?


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    you will get a lot of water bloat and when you stop the cycle you will piss out 95% of your gains. Sorry

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    Bulking? test, deca , anadrol ...... IMO

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    d-bol likkte to no keepable gains
    test suspension little to no keepable gains.
    winny no gains at all.

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    should I take .5cc 2xed like gra said earlier or 1 1cc a day? what is your opinion on the times of day for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    Bulking? test, deca, anadrol...... IMO

    Like goal said deca test drol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipnoticstylz94
    should I take .5cc 2xed like gra said earlier or 1 1cc a day? what is your opinion on the times of day for that?

    yes suspension needs to be shoot 2x a day 50mg am pm.

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    ok thanks for your input guys. will there even be any noticable gains with what i have? or just a waist of my time?

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    wast of time

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    what if the test sus was stacked with deca ? would that help to keep some gains?

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    deca needs to be run for 10 weeks min. are you doing to shoot 2x a day for 14 weeks.

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    my team mate that helped me out with this lives my his test/dbol regiment and he got enormous. I guess he shrunk a lot when he was done too though

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    test suspension is not like test-e or c. it has no ester.

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    your right there is no way i will do that for a first cycle. 2xed for 6 weeks is going to be hell enough. Also i diet/excerise religiously and wondered if there was anything you might recommend for getting those bothersome waist lbs. off of me

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