would you get much gains from a 4 week cycle @ 30mg p/d of d-bol
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would you get much gains from a 4 week cycle @ 30mg p/d of d-bol
probably nothing at all except a bit of water weight. Why would you want to do this anyway. Have you done any research on Anabolics ?
no, its not for me ,,, a friend didnt want to do test,,, but wanted a little extra push,,,,
any ideas
Well if it is a first cycle, I am sure you would in fact gain muscle, but you would lose it all when you come off. Although I have heard success(?) stories about people doing dbol only cycles. I wouldnt advise it though.
What are his stats and workout experience ?Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisa
small build,, with a 4 day workout,,,,, thats all i no
If you want an oral 4 week cycle go for superdrol,less water than Dbol,with no sides.
goose4........
d bol only cycle?? im not really a big fan cause ur just gonna lose all ur gains after wards. tell him to do what i did and start off with m1 or something of that sort. I made some great gains of m1, and i hate all the bad press it gets.
D-bol only cycles are a waste. Sure it will make you feel much better but when that month is over you'll lose everything.............
I did a 4 week cycle of dball 6 weeks ago. I had great gains and lost some water weight at the end, but I didn’t loose any of the muscle I gained. I have kept all my strength. I did a short cycle of D because I’ll be going to the Bahamas for the holidays and didn’t have time to do a normal 12 week cycle of my test e but wanted to put on a little muscle for the beach.
I know most people around here don’t like the dball only cycle, but I guess to each his own. It worked great for me. I will be starting a normal cycle of test e with EQ in mid January.
Just type d bol only in the search and your see alot of useful information
How come everytime someone asks about a dbol only cycle everyone says it doesn't work? How many of the same guys that said it doesn't work have actually tried it. I'm not a big advocate on oral only cycles, but it's complete bullshit to say they'll gain waterweight only. Conceivably one could gain 25 pounds and keep 15 easy. If you know a few tricks you can gain 30 and keep 25.
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Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE
i gained 20 pounds on d-bol in 5 weeks.
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Originally Posted by Vice
Dbol synthesizes protein. Eat every 2 hours. Protein drink with every meal. Nolva and proviron throughout to keep bloat at bay. You'll grow like a weed. There are more but I'd have to kill ya if I told ya.
Edit: the less you bloat the less you lose. In other words, more keepable gains.
Care to share how that would be done?
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If you're speaking to me, elaborate. I can't read your mind as we are covering many sub-topics here.
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Mike is right Dbol can work.I mean hooker`s first cycle was Dbol and he kept half his gains.If you are not a high level with a budget and want to have fun,why not run it??
goose4......
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Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training.
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1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the drug, with increases in total body potassium and muscle dimensions. It remained an open question whether the muscles had gained normal tissue or intracellular fluid. 2. In an attempt to distinguish between these possibilities the trial has been repeated, using as subjects seven male weight-lifters in regular training, and including measurements of total body nitrogen. As before, a dose of 100 mg of methandienone/day was given alternately with the placebo in a double-blind crossover experiment. The treatment periods lasted 6 weeks and were separated by an interval of 6 weeks. Body weight, potassium and nitrogen, muscle size, and leg performance and strength increased significantly during training on the drug, but not during the placebo period. 3. The finding of increased body nitrogen suggested that the weight gain was not only intracellular fluid. The increases in body potassium (436 +/- SEM 41 mmol) and nitrogen (255 +/- 69 g) were too large in proportion to the weight gain (2.3 +/- 0.4 kg) for this to be attributed to gain of normal muscle or other lean tissue, and imply gain of nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance. Although this action of methandienone might be described as anabolic, the weight gain produced is not normal muscle.Publication Types:
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Originally Posted by big k.l.g
Interesting find!
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Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE
I'm drug free.
You're point?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Hellmask
I'll say though that i disagree with the "D-bol only= all gains lost". It's just not an ideal cycle.
Why is nobody suggesting T-bol anymore or var for oral cycles?
Oral cycles are good for some weight/strength gain for athletes.
For bodybuilders or people who want some serious size , then no.
What do people think of Arnold`s old school stack of Dbol and Primo? They say he built his body on this combo.How do you think he ran it? (mike?)
goose4......
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Originally Posted by goose4
NO TEST? OMG!!! IT'S A WASTE. HE'LL NEVER GROW..
Goose,
In my book primo depot is no different that deca (anabolic,weaker only), so I'd say he probably had some 1000mgs weekly/100mgs daily dbol cycles. And before any clowns chime in about "deca dick" , Arnold got more pussy in a day than most people do in a week.
hahhhhhahahhahahahahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE
gained 5 kilo on 4 weeks(40 mg ed).....kept all. No bloat and no noticable sides ;-)