05-17-2002, 11:08 AM #1
Proposed 1st Cycle- Test/Eq/Fina- Ideas?
Hey guys, I'm back with another idea for my first cycle. Some things didn't work out, and I decided I should wait and get the extended family vacation out of the way before I start my maiden voyage. So I've got a bit more time to research and plan.
This is what I'd like to go with:
Test Prop wk 1 50mg ed, wk 2-4 50mg eod
Test Enth wk 1-10 400 mg/wk
Eq wk 1-10 400 mg/wk
Fina wk 5-12 75mg eod
Clomid wk 13-15 300mgx1day, 100mgx10days, 50mgx10days
I'll be running finastride and milk thistle throughout, and I'll have Nolvadex on hand of course.
BTW, I'm 6'1", 187lb, 8-9%bf, been training off and on for 4 years (off b/c of 3 knee surgeries), and looking to KEEP at least 15 pounds of muscle while dropping bf% somewhat. I'll keep the cardio at twice a week, 20 minutes, for the first 6 weeks of the cycle, and bump it up to 3-4 times a week, depending on my body's reaction.
I MAY go ahead and get some Liquidex, in case the bloating is unbearable. Has anybody noticed a decrease in acne side effects after adding an anti-aromatase like liquidex? Even during a cycle of andro, my back and shoulders broke out, so I need to watch out for acne problems.
Another question- I'm using the prop as a jumpstart. I chose t. prop instead of d-bol b/c I figured it would lead to less water retension, and I could reap the benefits of higher test levels within the first week. But, if I run l-dex alongside, I figure the water retension won't be a problem with the d-bol. So which would be better- dbol or t-prop? Or would both the prop and d-bol together provide an even more effective jumpstart?
Last one- if I throw in the l-dex- i figure .5mg/day- should it be run until the start of clomid, or the end?
PLEASE COMMENT- I'd love to hear some general feedback, answers, whatever. As always, thanks guys.
05-18-2002, 03:20 PM #2
05-18-2002, 03:31 PM #3
if it is your first cycle you dont need the tren bro,you will get great results with the test/eq.
save the tren for down the road when the test other gears dont work as well.
i would use the dbol /liqidx.in the beginning and the prop at the end and sub the tren for winny and run somthing like this.
wk 1-4 dbol 35-50 mg ed
wk 1-10 enethate
wk 1-10 eq
wk 11-13 prop/winny
clomid 3 days out
Last edited by 4plates; 05-18-2002 at 03:36 PM.
05-18-2002, 03:49 PM #4
well said 4 plates
also keep doesages like said 400mg test,400mg eq---you should do well
05-18-2002, 06:12 PM #5
05-18-2002, 06:15 PM #6Associate Member
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I think the winny will help out at the end if ur lookin to lose bodyfat and keep a certain fullness
05-18-2002, 07:51 PM #7
i just want to say that your fuckin eye is buggin me out (sorry for the off topic comment)
05-18-2002, 07:57 PM #8
Kev I donít mean to flame you but man if you have been studying I donít know how you missed the part that says if its your first cycle you donít need to stack, you have virgin receptors and they will grow with a little bit of AS, now you can even stack but donít go to crazy if you start taking all that stuff now I am scared too see how your 4 or 5 the cycle will look like. But then again who am I to speak.
p.s I think you should just stick with 400mg to 500mg of test and you will see nice gains. I did off of 250mg of test on my first cycle.
Last edited by PERSIANBOLIC; 05-18-2002 at 08:03 PM.
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