12-24-2005, 09:02 AM #1
Cycle starts today.
Test E 750 mgs for 11 weeks
Deca 500mg for 10 weeks
ANadrol 50/100 week 2-6 ( start after new years)
I was planning on frontloading hecne its a short cycle with these longer acting esters.
DO you see a problem with that, and how should I frontload them
1000 test E today, 1000 test E 1000 in 3.5 days
500 Deca today, 500 in 3 . 5 days.
Than back to normal schedule.
what do you think.
I dont like to frontload because of added sides but I have plenty of novadex to keep them under control.
Last edited by msu16366; 12-24-2005 at 09:05 AM.
12-24-2005, 09:04 AM #2
12-24-2005, 09:16 AM #3
I see no point in frontloading.
12-24-2005, 09:22 AM #4Originally Posted by msu16366
12-24-2005, 09:24 AM #5
well new years eve I have a wedding to go to, I dont plan on getting drunk, hence I am driving, but I may have a few.
12-24-2005, 09:29 AM #6Originally Posted by msu16366
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Front loading is old school, I wouldnt bother, I have seen a few guys do it with no disernable result
12-24-2005, 09:30 AM #8
12-24-2005, 09:34 AM #9Originally Posted by msu16366
12-24-2005, 09:34 AM #10Originally Posted by marcus300
Priorities Marcus!!!!! Priorities!!!!!!!!!!
12-24-2005, 10:00 AM #11
well after thinking I am not going to drink at all this new years eve or until after cycle. I have no need to frontload now because I am going to start everything today as originally planned.
Thanks for the advice, I am not giong to change my cycle around for one fuking night.
Let the games begin.
should I take saw palemeto (prostate) in conjuctiom with my milk thistle.
12-24-2005, 10:02 AM #12Originally Posted by msu16366
Yes, take them together.
12-24-2005, 10:02 AM #13Originally Posted by msu16366
12-24-2005, 10:03 AM #14
12-24-2005, 10:06 AM #15
Now my wife is so happy I am done drinking she is buying me some igf lr3 for christmas.
12-24-2005, 10:08 AM #16Originally Posted by msu16366
12-24-2005, 10:08 AM #17
12-24-2005, 10:09 AM #18
12-24-2005, 10:12 AM #19
was it 1 gram of milk thistle
12-24-2005, 10:15 AM #20
100mgs is fine. 1000mgs (a gram) is a waste.
12-24-2005, 10:21 AM #21
100 mgs is only 1/2 a pill of my milk thistle, are your sure, they are 175 mgs per pill. I thought it was 1000mgs, on the bottle it says to take 1 pill 3 times daily.
12-24-2005, 10:23 AM #22Originally Posted by JamesC
I've always agreed with everything you have always said James except for this. The purpose of frontloading is to get more out of the longer esters. I dont see any reason to frontload a short ester like prop. Lets say you are taking 500mgs of Prop, it kicks in relatively quick and is releasing 500mgs of active test. If injecting 500mgs of lets say Test E. It will be 6-8 weeks before the same amount if test is released. I have done calculations on Roidcalc.com with these numbers and it states the amount released and amount active. It took all the way to week 8 to have the same amount of test released that it would have at week 2 by frontloading. There was a great thread on this several months ago I"ll try to dig it up. These calculations matched the ones on that imparticluar thread.
Not being a hypocrite but i have tried frontloading and didnt really like it. I do have to say that I felt the Test E kick in within 2 weeks which is amazing. But my results came to quick hold at about week 8 or so. I wasnt really gaining after that mark and was really disappointed. That was my first and last run................
12-24-2005, 10:27 AM #23Originally Posted by Jayhova16
12-24-2005, 10:28 AM #24
Oh and i like it when others have different opinions to me, its the differing views that make this board so good!
12-24-2005, 10:28 AM #25
THey all say to take 1 gram of milk thistle, and thats what I remember taking before,
anyways thanks for the help guys, I just need to go buy some saw palemeto and B6 and a few syringes and I am good to go.
I will be keeping a cycle log of this cycle starting tommarow.
12-24-2005, 10:29 AM #26Originally Posted by msu16366
12-24-2005, 10:31 AM #27Originally Posted by JamesC
That's the statement of the year James!!!! If we all agreed on the same thing then we'd all be huge. I always love to agree with people, especially knowledgable members as yourself buddy..............
12-24-2005, 10:42 AM #28Originally Posted by JamesC
mine are standardized to 140mg of silymarin per pill
12-24-2005, 11:13 AM #29Originally Posted by Jayhova16
12-24-2005, 11:40 AM #30Originally Posted by marcus300
There is absolutely nothing in your comment that I could ever disagree with. I agree 100% with all of it as I've kickstarted cylces with prop until getting the full effect of a longer ester. Perfectly said and I totally agree marcus.
I decided to frontload my last cycle after much research. When I came across Roidcalc.com I took the time to input my cycle both with and without the frontload. There was a big difference in the numbers as far as the amount injected .vs. amount that was active and released. After viewing these numbers I decided to give it a shot. I ran about 14 weeks of 750mgs of Test E and 600mgs of EQ, along with other things. The Test E and EQ were frontloaded at 1500mgs and 1200mgs for the first week. I do have to say that I felt it kick in very quick but then died out unbelievably fast, for that reason I wont do it again. What happened to me physically was the opposite of the calculations that I recieved. I do feel as if I would have gotten better results just running a steady dose and prop the intial few weeks.
If there's science to back something up I will do it. But do have to say that personal feedback is my favorite. That's a huge reason why I"m part of these boards.
Last edited by SPIKE; 12-24-2005 at 11:42 AM.
12-24-2005, 12:57 PM #31Originally Posted by Jayhova16
12-24-2005, 02:25 PM #32Originally Posted by marcus300
I think I figured out where we are confused here. It's all in the terminology of the word "Frontload." After reading your comment Marcus I could totally see where you thought I was contridicting myself.
When I used the term "frontload" I was pertaining to doubling the dose the first week only then resuming with a regular steady dose for the remaining weeks. Frontloading to me is loading up a longer ester in the front trying to get more out of it quicker. When others used the term frontload they used it in a sense where they took prop and used it for the first 3 weeks or so while waiting for the longer esters to kick in. I totally understand now. I think we were all confused for a minute that why were were contridicting each other. I love it when things work out. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
12-24-2005, 02:31 PM #33Originally Posted by Jayhova16
merry xmas to all
12-24-2005, 03:40 PM #34
12-24-2005, 03:48 PM #35Originally Posted by msu16366
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