what gear has given you undesirable side effects?

**alwayson** · 12-24-2005, 01:40 PM

I'm certainly not new to steroids , but I am a little bored.

Please list any steroids that have given you undesirable side effects.

**NewBreed** · 12-24-2005, 01:55 PM

M1t and A-drol, overall unwellbeing, tiredness(m1T) and short-breathed (adrol), no endurance(adrol, M1T).

Alll 17aa are shitty after a while without some test.

**vitor** · 12-24-2005, 01:56 PM

testosterone gave me:acne, bloat, increased hair growth, and low libodo when coming off (Very annoying sides.) I dont really get sides from anything else!

**jbone30** · 12-24-2005, 02:09 PM

1 gram of test for 10 weeks...my bad...stole my nuts gave me acne and robbed me of libido

**marcus300** · 12-24-2005, 02:20 PM

3grams of test & 200 nap 50's plus aload of other stuff,,,ohhh them demons

**j martini** · 12-24-2005, 02:33 PM

Well test gives me acne, hair growth
Tren gives me acne, aggression and night sweats

But the benefits all outweigh the negatives.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 02:37 PM

GH when I first started it. Cramped up damn near everywhere. And the weeks of 3 grams test a week like marcus said.

**Pinnacle** · 12-24-2005, 02:38 PM

Dbol is the only drug I can't stand or tolerate.The lower back pumps are annoying,and the high bp doesn't help much either.I can deal with side effects of any other drug though.

**Pinnacle** · 12-24-2005, 02:40 PM

[quote=NYC BIG MIKE] weeks of 3 grams test a week

I only got acne from test at that high a dose.Granted,I didn't feel like myself either,but nothing I couldn't deal with.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 02:43 PM

Here kitty, kitty, kitty.

**Booz** · 12-24-2005, 02:55 PM

the tren nightmares are the worst for me!

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 02:57 PM

You mean nightmares metaphorically I take. Night sweats, aggresssion, etc?

**MASTER** · 12-24-2005, 02:59 PM

For me winny probs gave me the worst sides, really painful joints and hairloss, hate the stuff!

**Booz** · 12-24-2005, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

You mean nightmares metaphorically I take. Night sweats, aggresssion, etc?

yes mate but i have had some weird ass sh*t go down in my dreams when ive been on tren !!!

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by booz

yes mate but i have had some weird ass sh*t go down in my dreams when ive been on tren !!!

Was it the dream where Marcus, Goose and James pull your intestines out of your ass and then cut your arms and legs off and tie them to your torso with the intestines?

**JiGGaMaN** · 12-24-2005, 03:09 PM

test @ 500mg/wk gave me gyno, back hair, hair loss, acne, and bloat.

**vitor** · 12-24-2005, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by JamesC

For me winny probs gave me the worst sides, really painful joints and hairloss, hate the stuff!

Unless you were on a winny only-cycle(which I doubt), how do you know it was winstrol that gave you hairloss?

**Booz** · 12-24-2005, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Was it the dream where Marcus, Goose and James pull your intestines out of your ass and then cut your arms and legs off and tie them to your torso with the intestines?

lol the worst part was where you come along and tell me that you did not love me anymore!!!

**Unoid** · 12-24-2005, 03:13 PM

tran at 75mb ED would yielf me very sore legs to the point where i coudln't walk after a week.

M4OHN at 6-9MG/ED , I got back acne again for the first time since i was 16 and went on acutane for it. It also made me very irritable, didn't get along well with father or girlfriend. SO I had to drop it.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by booz

lol the worst part was where you come along and tell me that you did not love me anymore!!!

I still feel bad about that.

**vitor** · 12-24-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

test @ 500mg/wk gave me gyno, back hair, hair loss, acne, and bloat.

Wow, have you used test again after that expirience?

**MASTER** · 12-24-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

Unless you were on a winny only-cycle(which I doubt), how do you know it was winstrol that gave you hairloss?

I have only use winny once and it was only during that cycle I noticed the side effects i mentioned

**marcus300** · 12-24-2005, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Was it the dream where Marcus, Goose and James pull your intestines out of your ass and then cut your arms and legs off and tie them to your torso with the intestines?

hahaha hahaha your on form big lad

**MASTER** · 12-24-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Was it the dream where Marcus, Goose and James pull your intestines out of your ass and then cut your arms and legs off and tie them to your torso with the intestines?

Lmao I didnt notice that!

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 03:22 PM

Here kitty, kitty, kitty.

**Booz** · 12-24-2005, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

I still feel bad about that.

so you should i was very hurt!!

***SPIKE*** · 12-24-2005, 03:32 PM

I have to agree with Booz with tren giving me the worst sides. The occasional tren cough and nights sweats are way too much. Not to mention I sweat so much more therefore aggravating me further. I dont mind the ED injections but If I'm doing that I'd hope to cut down on sides........

**vitor** · 12-24-2005, 03:41 PM

Trenebolone pretty much give the same sides as deca (progestin) +the harsh androgenic sides that deca doesnt give. When I take tren without test I dont get much acne dow, its the test which is the worst for your skin. (Atleast for me)

**DBflash21** · 12-24-2005, 04:50 PM

Is there anyway to avoid bloat?

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-24-2005, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by DBflash21

Is there anyway to avoid bloat?

Nolva 20 mgs daily and Proviron 50 mgs daily cuts off estrogen where it starts and where it binds. No estrogen, no bloat.

**Newport** · 12-25-2005, 12:05 PM

Tren acetate, fatigue and yet insomnia. The enanthate version was more subtle.

**IBdmfkr** · 12-25-2005, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Nolva 20 mgs daily and Proviron 50 mgs daily cuts off estrogen where it starts and where it binds. No estrogen, no bloat.

How about aromasin , any experience with this?

**Raw Dawg** · 12-25-2005, 04:02 PM

Dbol at just 40 mgs. gave me unbearable back pumps and also made my traps cramp like hell when I worked upper body.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-25-2005, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

How about aromasin, any experience with this?

Never took aromasin in all my years. But I'll tell ya what. I've read alot no doubt. I've known plenty who've taken aromasin, some liked it, some didn't. I was speaking to another prominent member on this board about how there are some booksmart people here who only have a few cycles under their belt yet they spit out info like they know it all. My info is from my experiences first and foremost. I can tell you what I have read and what my friend's personal experiences were, but I will not bullshit you. I've had good success with nolva and proviron . You know the old saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". And I've spent more on bloodwork in my years than most have on cycles. Sorry I couldn't give you first hand experience.

***SPIKE*** · 12-25-2005, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Sorry I couldn't give you first hand experience.

What you said was more then enough. As you probably know personal feedback is my absolute favorite. One thing to have read or heard about it and another to have experienced it. I have worked out the Math on Aromasin .vs. Proviron /Nolvadex combo. So far it's the same exact price. Now the final answer is which one to run......................Aromasin seems to have less sides on paper. I"m just worried about any hair loss on Proviron, and yes I am prone..

**edmen2** · 12-25-2005, 06:42 PM

deca shot my b/p up so i high i felt like i had permanent vertigo!

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-25-2005, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova16

What you said was more then enough. As you probably know personal feedback is my absolute favorite. One thing to have read or heard about it and another to have experienced it. I have worked out the Math on Aromasin .vs. Proviron/Nolvadex combo. So far it's the same exact price. Now the final answer is which one to run......................Aromasin seems to have less sides on paper. I"m just worried about any hair loss on Proviron, and yes I am prone..

I got a few years on ya. Your outlook is a good one. You seemed to have done your homework. All bodybuilders take educated risks sooner and later. After all, we get to a certain knowledge based via trial and error (subjectively speaking). I'd run aromasin in your case if you are sensitive to hair loss. Proviron is DHT laden, as you know. Consider this an educated risk in your young bodybuilding life.

***SPIKE*** · 12-25-2005, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

I got a few years on ya. Your outlook is a good one. You seemed to have done your homework. All bodybuilders take educated risks sooner and later. After all, we get to a certain knowledge based via trial and error (subjectively speaking). I'd run aromasin in your case if you are sensitive to hair loss. Proviron is DHT laden, as you know. Consider this an educated risk in your young bodybuilding life.

You've been cycling almost just as long as I've been alive. So when you speak I stop and listen. Trial and Error may as well be tattood on your pec.

There's nothing like getting knowledgeable info first hand. To me, thats priceless..............All your input is appreciated more then you think, thank you. Aromasin here we come.....................IBD you wit me kiddo????