Arnolds gear

[Buffman]

Anoyone that knows what kind of steroids the IFBB people use?
people like Jay, Ronnie, Dorian, Markus Rühl, Arnold, aso.

[Pinnacle]

yea..but if i tell you,i'd have to kill you afterwards.

[bigger]

i guess they use it all

[bigger]

yea..but if i tell you,i'd have to kill you afterwards.

common its xmas..

[NYC BIG MIKE]

yea..but if i tell you,i'd have to kill you afterwards.

Thanks God I know then.

[NYC BIG MIKE]

I wanna be big like Tranzit.

[j martini]

The same as anyone else, only in higher quantities and greater frequency.

With the addition of GH, igf1 and slin but many people also use them, not just IFBB pros. There is no secret magiic drug.

[Buffman]

i know that, but it's so strange that they actually got that big...

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Arnold, by today's standard, would be lost in the crowd.

[bigger]

i know that, but it's so strange that they actually got that big...

dedication and even more dedicatio may be the answer you seek

[TheSickOne]

Anoyone that knows what kind of steroids the IFBB people use?
people like Jay, Ronnie, Dorian, Markus Rühl, Arnold, aso.

They don't take steroids, read FLEX MAGAZINE and they give you there diets and all the other information you need to get big like them.

[BajanBastard]

Genes.................plain and simple.

[marcus300]

i am sure...no i know the IFBB pro's have used & tried everything going and they know exactly what works for them, it would be very hard to commet on exactly what individuals are taking, because that would have to come from themselves, but i do know dorian,nasser,sonbaty and dillett were lovers of the short shock cycling theory (which i love as some of you know). you have to try compounds for yourself and find what works and what is best for your body to respond with as little sides as possible, experience counts for everything and knowing your body

[Buffman]

Arnold, by today's standard, would be lost in the crowd.

thats true pal.. dorian too, he looks like crap theese days

but the other big guys... anyone that has heard especially what they have used?
I heard that Dorian Yates used so many different kind of steroids and HGH that he couldn't remember the half of it..

[tcw]

Personally i think that you would have to remove "Arnold" from that Group....

I think the juice that was available to Arnold was different than today. From the Pro BB i've talked too (old timers)....many of the pro's in the 70-80's were popping Dbol like candy... without much concern about the ramifications to their liver or kidneys.

Today...information is better and the selection of drugs is broader. I think Arnold would have been just as big as Coleman...if he were competiting in his prime....

[Pinnacle]

Arnold, by today's standard, would be lost in the crowd.

Very true.

[j martini]

i know that, but it's so strange that they actually got that big...

Genetics, dedication and consistency 10-15 years of hitting it hard, it takes all these factors to produce that sort of physique.

As for arnold the most he probably used is what most people would be using on a second or 3rd cycle these days likely under a gram total per week.

[Buffman]

Personally i think that you would have to remove "Arnold" from that Group....

I think the juice that was available to Arnold was different than today. From the Pro BB i've talked too (old timers)....many of the pro's in the 70-80's were popping Dbol like candy... without much concern about the ramifications to their liver or kidneys.

Today...information is better and the choices of drugs are wider.

yeah, look at ronnie.. he is bigger than Arnold.. (Arnolds good times)

[marcus300]

thats true pal.. dorian too, he looks like crap theese days

but the other big guys... anyone that has heard especially what they have used?
I heard that Dorian Yates used so many different kind of steroids and HGH that he couldn't remember the half of it..

are you for real

[NYC BIG MIKE]

yeah, look at ronnie.. he is bigger than Arnold.. (Arnolds good times)

Ya think?

[j martini]

thats true pal.. dorian too, he looks like crap theese days

but the other big guys... anyone that has heard especially what they have used?
I heard that Dorian Yates used so many different kind of steroids and HGH that he couldn't remember the half of it..

Dorian at his best would beat everyone apart from Ronnie.

[Buffman]

are you for real

yeah.. i read an interveiw with him, i don't remember the url. but he admitted everything and had uploaded before and after pictures.. it was kind of sick.. i'll let you know if i stumble accross the web-page again

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Dorian at his best would beat everyone apart from Ronnie.

Agreed.

[Pinnacle]

are you for real

lmao

[tcw]

True...Arnold in his prime was smaller than Coleman...but...remember...Arnold had no competition back then....and AS was a very COMPETITIVE dude. I'm sure he would have given Coleman a run for his money...if not beaten him.

Remember...the information available today is MUCH better than that of 30 yrs ago...pretty tough to compare apples to apples...

[Pinnacle]

True...Arnold in his prime was smaller than Coleman...but...remember...Arnold had no competition back then....and AS was a very COMPETITIVE dude. I'm sure he would have given Coleman a run for his money...if not beaten him.

It's a tad early to be drinking,don't you think?

[Buffman]

Ya think?

i don't think! i know watch pumping iron....... and then suddently, switch to Ronnie Coleman, the unbeliveable.. (his workout movie..) then you'll se that Ronnie actually is bigger than Arnold at his best..
Personally i like Arnold a lot better than coleman...
But i was just plain and simple stunned when i saw that he is bigger

[Buffman]

but of course, back then, there wasn't as much knowledge about steroids and work out techniques as there is today

[NYC BIG MIKE]

i don't think! i know watch pumping iron....... and then suddently, switch to Ronnie Coleman, the unbeliveable.. (his workout movie..) then you'll se that Ronnie actually is bigger than Arnold at his best..
Personally i like Arnold a lot better than coleman...
But i was just plain and simple stunned when i saw that he is bigger

Who'da ever figured?

[j martini]

True...Arnold in his prime was smaller than Coleman...but...remember...Arnold had no competition back then....and AS was a very COMPETITIVE dude. I'm sure he would have given Coleman a run for his money...if not beaten him.

Remember...the information available today is MUCH better than that of 30 yrs ago...pretty tough to compare apples to apples...

Well IMO Sergio Oliva was better than Arnold. Sergio was complete from head to toe unlike arnold, had better structure and was only about 10 pounds lighter even though arnold was about 3 inches taller.

Arnold was Joe Weiders golden boy and he thought would take bodybuilding forward by appe****g to the masses, which he did.
But anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding will tell you Sergio was the better bodybuilder.

[Anabolios]

they use injectable cell tech ;-)

[marcus300]

yeah.. i read an interveiw with him, i don't remember the url. but he admitted everything and had uploaded before and after pictures.. it was kind of sick.. i'll let you know if i stumble accross the web-page again

interview hey!!!
i have cycles what dorian completed in his early stages, a friend of mine use to advice him on his training methods and cycling, he did try everything going, he did find out what compounds work best for his body, i do know he used large amounts of different compounds on short cycling in his early days, there is one thing in common with all pro's = 24hr dedication.
remember steriods are only one piece of the whole puzzle of building muscle, there are many other tools for the job aswell

[BajanBastard]

Ya think?

Who'da ever figured?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheSickOne]

I like giving anal

[scriptfactory]

marcus300: Post up the cycles, broham!

IMO steroids and diet are a given. If those two aren't on point then you aren't going to become a pro. Then you can either have 1) extreme dedication to training or 2) awesome genetics. I think we all know there are a few top bodybuilders that aren't very dedicated to the training aspect. There are even some pros that don't focus on diet as much as they should.

[aadrenaline]

I wanna be big like Tranzit.

lol me too...

[NYC BIG MIKE]

I like giving anal

Well being that it's the holidays, your family should be nearby you frisky animal you.

[MASTER]

Arnold, by today's standard, would be lost in the crowd.

No doubt, I bet there are many people on here that do more gear than arnie did!

[MASTER]

Who'da ever figured?

Ha ha ha
I love it when noobs try and explain shit!!

[PaulieM.]

obviously today's pros are doing mega-doses by anyone's standard, but i'm sure arnold and his fellow pros were doin a lot more than most people would think. arnold was as hard and dry as any of today's pros and he weighed around 240. ronnie is 4 inches shorter and weighs in around 300 with about the same conditioning. i think both must have excellent genes, but i think today's pros(ronnie inparticular) might be using something new(gene doping), i don't think massive juice and growth/slin/igf-1 dosages would be responsible for the huge difference in lean body mass created by some of today's pros. we'll find out sooner or later...