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    Which Is A Good Kick Start ??

    Hey guys...I just finished talking to my trainer and we put together this stack for my last bulk cycle before my contest in august.

    EQ: 400mgs/week
    TestE:400mgs/week
    Anavar : 40 mgs a day for the first 3-4 weeks
    Anadrol (liquid): starting 4th week with 100mgs/eod

    The question is that, I wanted to use Test Prop to give me a good kick start for the cycle. But My trainer thinks its better for me to use anavar becuase I have a little more fat percentage and the test prop wont work as well. Any thoughts would be great bros.

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    Ditch the var, you're bulking - not cutting, replace with prop. Could also finish with prop.

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    Thats what I thought also, but he also doesnt want me to put to much bulk on and also like I said, he thinks my bodyfat is just a little high to use prop ?????????
    Last edited by ultimate_beef; 12-30-2005 at 08:33 PM.

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    I would kick start with the Anadrol and finish up with the Anavar ... I would also think about upping the test dose... How many weeks you running this?

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    10-11 weeks

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    I wouldnt think Eq for only 10 weeks would be a good Bulker either...

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    Test Prop 100mgs ED
    Tren Ace 75mgs ED

    You could also throw Anavar or Winny in there at the end...

    Would be a better clean bulker...

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    I would of gone with some more stronger stuff for bulking such as, Deca , and sus....but he doesnt want me to gain to much bulk because I have still a little more bodyfat on me which would make it harder for me to diet down..so hopefully this stack works as a lean bulker

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    So should I get Test Prop instead of the anavar ..and the prop is only 90 dollars canadian and the anavar is 150 canadian

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    Also a Test E 600mgs and Tren E 400mgs would give you a better clean bulk in my opinion... You could also add a kickstart in here and finish up with Winny or Anavar ...

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    hows this then...

    Test E:600mgs
    Eq:400mgs
    Test Pro:100 mgs Eod for the first 4 weeks
    Anadrol : 100mgs starting at 4th week

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    The Eq takes 6-7 weeks to really kick in so I would ditch that if I was you... I really think a Test Prop/Tren ace would be your best bet... Im also confused on why your trainer would suggest Anadrol at the end of your cycle if he is worried about fat gain...

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    He has this new Anadrol that is a injectable...And the anadrol was really my opinion because I know it works wonders. I also know that anadrol doesnt create that much fat and water if you have nolvadex and good diet and cardio at hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimate_beef
    hows this then...

    Test E:600mgs
    Eq:400mgs
    Test Pro:100 mgs Eod for the first 4 weeks
    Anadrol: 100mgs starting at 4th week

    If you are going to use these substances I would run it like this...

    Test Enanthate 600mgs 1-12
    EQ 400mgs 1-10
    Anadrol 50mgs 1-6
    Test Prop 8-13

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimate_beef
    He has this new Anadrol that is a injectable...And the anadrol was really my opinion because I know it works wonders. I also know that anadrol doesnt create that much fat and water if you have nolvadex and good diet and cardio at hand
    Ive never heard of inj. Anadrol ... Who makes it?

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    I would make sure that the Anadrol is not one of these Oral solutions floating around. I scan countless lists weekly and have never seen a Inj. Anadrol. Please someone step in and let me know if Ive missed something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler45_2000
    I would kick start with the Anadrol and finish up with the Anavar... I would also think about upping the test dose... How many weeks you running this?
    this is what I would do. and if you dont like Anavar , throw in the winny at the end.....

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    I decided to throw in test prop instead of the anavar

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    i don't understand why you are running anavar and eq while bulking. i mean, of course it's possible too bulk on eq, but wouldn't deca be a better choice in your situation. if iwere you, id save the eq and var for your pre contest cutter. jump start with some drol bro, YOUR BULKING.

    test, deca, drol= the ultimate bulker

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    test, deca, drol= the ultimate bulker
    Agreed bro!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimate_beef
    Thats what I thought also, but he also doesnt want me to put to much bulk on and also like I said, he thinks my bodyfat is just a little high to use prop ?????????

    If you dont want too much bulk dont even think about Drol.

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