Thread: ***Critique my next cycle***
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12-30-2005, 02:10 AM #1
***Critique my next cycle***
stats: 6ft 200lbs 14%bf, iv done 2 cycles consisting of deca , test e, test prop, and winny.
this is my proposed next cycle:
wk1-4 anadrol 50-100mgs ed
wk1-12 test cyp 600mgs
wk1-12 NPP 150mgs eod.
wk13-20 test prop 150mgs eod
wk13-20 tren ace 50-75mgs ed
wk16-20 halo 40mgs ed
HCG wks8,9,10,18,19,20 500iu's 2xs wk
ldex .5mgs ed when needed
b6 150mgs ed throughout
PCT: nolva, clomid, IGF 65mcgs ed, trib.
My goals with this cycle is too get strong as all hell, gain around 12lbs lean, and drop some BF towards the end. what do you think of running a progestin(nadrolone/tren) all the way through? any comments are welcomeLast edited by testosterona; 12-30-2005 at 02:14 AM.
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12-30-2005, 02:41 AM #2
thats one hell of a killer cycle there. why not just use nandrolone decanoate instead of npp. itll cut down on your injections a bit. other than that, thats a pretty big cycle, you're only 19: i see great size and hrt in your future.
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12-30-2005, 02:47 AM #3
i bloat easily on deca so i'm going too try NPP since i'v heard good things about less water retention. i don't mind the injects. i'm prob not going too run this until i'm 21. i need too recover from this last 18wkr and get some bloodwork done, so no worries. i don't plan on being on trt. out of the two cylces iv ran iv responded better with the longer one while switchi9ng up compunds mid way. depending on my blood work results though, i might go with short ones from now on. however, this is what i'm hoping to run.
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12-30-2005, 02:48 AM #4
oh, and by "big cycle" you must mean length wise right? the doses are moderate IMO
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12-30-2005, 03:35 AM #5
yeah definitely not extreme on the doses by any means, however its a 5 month long cycle
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12-30-2005, 07:44 AM #6
i would say that cycle is way to long especaily if you have only had 2 cycles under your belt, i like the compounds but way to long
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12-30-2005, 08:05 AM #7
I think is overkill, obviously u are under 21 years old bro so I don't see why u would run a cycle like that..in fact u shouldn't run a cycle at all! At least keep it simple because if u are 20 and use a pattern like this then when u will reach 35 what doses and stuff u will use? JMO
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12-30-2005, 09:28 AM #8Originally Posted by judge_dread
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12-30-2005, 10:01 AM #9
Dude we all know what its like to be on this board and see people post some serious cycles. Most of the time all it does it make up want to do more, but we have to know our limits. I think this cycle looks great but at your age definitely tone it down a bit. I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say not to juice as most have and will tell you that. I started at around 20,21 and have been cyclnig ever since.
With only having test, deca , winny and prop under your belt I would be hesitant to run such harsh compounds. Drol, Tren , halo are all drugs that can result in some nasty sides if you dont know how to control them. Not using that statement to take away from your knowledge, just sometimes you have to feel out a compound before you can go gung-ho with it. I'd runa nice 12-14 weeker while stil keeping your goal in mind. How does this look:
Week 1-4 Drol 50mgs ED
Week 1-12 Test Cyp 600mgs
Week 1-12 NPP 150mgs EOD
Week 12-14 Prop 75mgs ED
Week 6-14 Tren-A 50mgs ED
Then on weeks 12-14 you can shoot the Tren and prop together ED and start PCT 3 days after your last shot. Ancileries can be kept the same, use as needed. You can still put on some serious weight with this and use the Tren/prop combo to help lean you up. With the proper combination of Diet, cardio, and resistance training of course...........Last edited by SPIKE; 12-30-2005 at 11:02 AM.
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12-30-2005, 10:29 AM #10Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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12-30-2005, 11:04 AM #11
Test, this cycle looks familiar with a twist! I LIKE IT ... BUT I am with Jay man, Even at 21 you have SO much room to expand your cycles in the future. At 21 I did my 2nd cycle, it consisted up Test 500mg/wk + Eq 400mg/wk and I grew like a weed. I think it is unneccesary for you to run a cycle like this so early in your cycling carreer BTW I like Jay's idea but still think it is a bit more than you need to grow, putting on too much weight at a time isn't always a good thing, look more long-term and see where you want to be in 5yrs not 6months, Be safe.
Btw, "do as I say, not as I do". That is the best advice I can give anyone younger than myself.Last edited by IBdmfkr; 12-30-2005 at 11:13 AM.
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12-30-2005, 11:13 AM #12Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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12-30-2005, 11:15 AM #13
I'd add the halo at week 10 of Jay's cycle at 3-400mg/wk. Don't know much about NPP, so I'll let Jay handle that one.
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12-30-2005, 11:17 AM #14Originally Posted by testosterona
Acutally I've never used NPP only have read about it. Really havent seen too many people use it but it looks good. I would have recommended Deca but saw that you bloat easily on it.
I have Halo lined up to finish my next cycle as well. Still contemplating if I am going to use it or not, it will be my first run with it.
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12-30-2005, 11:18 AM #15Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
I think this is the basis of most not using it. At least that's mine.........
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12-30-2005, 11:20 AM #16Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
tren wk6-14
NPPwk1-10
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12-30-2005, 11:23 AM #17Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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12-30-2005, 11:26 AM #18
Good luck to you. Make sure you wait on BW and do a proper PCT protocol. 20-21 is too young for HRT, so be careful. I'll be on HRT at 25, so don't be like me.
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12-30-2005, 11:46 AM #19Banned
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Halotestin may be seen to produce a pure androgenic responce,but no anabolic responce or fat loss agent,I would use var instead of halo,we call it a “fat-burning steroid ”. Abdominal and visceral fat are reduced.Plus you could run it longer,thats means better results.
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12-30-2005, 06:27 PM #20Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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12-30-2005, 06:30 PM #21Originally Posted by chest6
HEY!!! Get back to the Lounge!!!! LOL, you're my boy Chest. I mean, who else can I talk to about Family Guy?Last edited by SPIKE; 12-30-2005 at 06:38 PM.
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12-30-2005, 06:59 PM #22
Test, I have seen some of your pictures, and it don't look like you have done 2 cycles of Deca /Test. I mean except for the pretty big Caps you look like I did at 21 without juice. I think these guys know alot and when you are 19 you have a certain way of thinking no matter what others tell you. You might think you own the world and nothing can happen to you, but it can, and it will. I would do the shorter one suggested, there is a certain limit of how much you can grow anyway with one cycle. The risk of you not wanting to train anymore when you are 22 is huge if you take all that shit now. There will be no good cycle to satisfy you, and the disaster is a fact. You should still think it's fun to train natty, and it may not with all that stuff.
I don't want to run you down or anything, I have seen alot of your threads and you know alot of shit and I am impressed. I just think you want very much very fast, and I think you may lack alot in diet and such. I have seen alot of people come and go in the gym over the years, and it's always the juicers that dissapear after a while, maybe they don't like training without juice. The bigger the cycle I might guess, the harder to train natty after.
You could probably just run another Test/deca or EQ and get very good results again, why fix it if it's not broken? Then when you notice it doesn't do it anymore, then add and change.
I don't know much about this yet, but I have common sense and I use my brain to give advice anyway, not on compounds but other advice.
You did nice on your legs by the way
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12-30-2005, 07:08 PM #23
That is a bit heavy imo, might wana tone it down a bit! A 12 week cycle wud be better for u, 14 maximum, jmo!
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12-30-2005, 07:11 PM #24
I didnt see jahovas suggestion before, that looks a lot better! Gd stuff jay!!
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12-30-2005, 07:13 PM #25
s npp the same as the old durabolin ?
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12-30-2005, 07:16 PM #26Originally Posted by Jayhova16
I do like that cycle you proposed better than the long one. Recovery should be much easier. I didnt like the deca being ran that long personally like test asked about.
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12-30-2005, 07:21 PM #27Originally Posted by chest6
I'll save the Family Guy comments for the Lounge................As far as his cycle hes a smart guy, he'll do it right. We all get so eager to get bigger and stronger without sometimes taking a step back and looking at the future. They say you can't rush success, can't rush putting on 12lbs. of LBM either...........
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12-30-2005, 07:24 PM #28
I also really like the idea of waiting a year or two. You are right, you're only 19 you have plenty of time. You dont want to have to use massive amounts of juice to get results so early. Dont forget less=more
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12-30-2005, 07:31 PM #29Originally Posted by chest6
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12-30-2005, 11:12 PM #30Originally Posted by chest6
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12-30-2005, 11:15 PM #31Associate Member
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your nutz would die sooner good luck bro!
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12-30-2005, 11:16 PM #32Associate Member
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ur nutz would die
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12-30-2005, 11:23 PM #33Originally Posted by elitetky
hence the HCG
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12-31-2005, 12:20 AM #34
Who needs those things anyway?
PS, never told you Test but that chick is ugly as hell in your avatar (hope it isn't your GF)
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12-31-2005, 12:23 AM #35Originally Posted by TinTin78
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12-31-2005, 12:25 AM #36Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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12-31-2005, 12:36 AM #37Senior Member
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Gear looks good but thats one long ass cycle man. Be carefull make sure your taking your MT and Cranberry juice and hydrating.
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12-31-2005, 12:37 AM #38
good input tranzit. thanks bro.
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12-31-2005, 12:43 AM #39Senior Member
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NP my brother let me know how your comming along looks like your pretty serious this time around.
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12-31-2005, 01:30 AM #40Originally Posted by testosterona
If you like etheopians... lol
Don't feel bad that is how I looked when I started Be proud of that skinny old you
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