I wonder if someone tried T-bol at 40mg/day instead of the usual 50? And what are your personal experience of this drug.
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I wonder if someone tried T-bol at 40mg/day instead of the usual 50? And what are your personal experience of this drug.
Do you mean anadrol 50?
goose4..
I cant comment on 40mg/ED as I did 50mg/ED. I'll be trying 60mg/ED for my second cycle. Along with 500mg/wk Test Enan (Schering).
What was your experience with 50mg of Turinabol?
i like 60-80mg/day pumps all day. But 40 .. how much do you weigh and what have you done before? If its your first 40 should be plenty
The pumps in the gym were really very good. I had more energy also. Strength went right up. It seemed to kick in fully after running it for 2 weeks to 10 days. The mass gains were brilliant also, my weight shot up about 15lbs within the first 4-5 weeks. I was also running Test Enan 500mg/wk though. I ran it for 6 weeks at 50mg/ED. I was also more vascular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asgard
The sides it gave me, were, I occasionally got an upset stomach and a gasseous stomach after taking a 20mg dose. I also experinced headaches in the first week, but they subsided.
I definitely suggest running it and I will run it in every cycle I do from now.
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Originally Posted by Swifto
Test had alot to do with that weight gain.
T-bol gains are similar to that of var in weight.
I have done cycles for a couple years but generally mild dosages. But i usually respond very good. The reason i ask is because some litterature recommends between 40-50mg. For me this is something new, and it would be nice with some info. Gains in weight, strength and what works good with it.
But this ranges from person to person. I'd say that Tbol is like a mix of Dbol and Var. I did hold some water but I cant say whether it was the Tbol or Test. The Test seemed to kick in weeks 6-8 and I gained another 9lbs before ending the cycle. I did, though, lose every single lb due to pneumonia which I got at week 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellmask
Water was definetly from the test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifto
Tbol is good. I'd say it's possible to gain 8lbs of lbm if everything is perfect. Strength is pretty good as well. No bloat, small lean gains.
I'd run it for 50-60mgs for 6 weeks.
yes i would agree with this,test e for me will not produce significant gains till around week 7!:wg:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifto
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by booz
It seems to take for ever for me, late starter.
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Originally Posted by Swifto
Did you take any liquidex or anything to help control the bloat?
I completely disagree with this, tbol puts on wayyy more weight than var doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Hellmask
^ how much would you say each (var and tbol) an put on?
Let's examine the two compounds more closely:
Oxandrolone(Anavar) is an excellent compound for strength gains and increased muscle density. Anavar will HARDEN the muscles drastically, while strengthening ligaments, joints, and tendons. Oxandrolone will promote weight gain in the form of lean muscle tissue in a calorie dependent manner, being mildly anabolic with almost zero androgenic activity. It also can not aromatize.
Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone(Oral-Turinabol) is more anabolic than anavar, while being only slightly more androgenic. It is more effective in terms of building muscle mass, but Oxandrolone produces MUCH greater strength gains. Turinabol also drastically HARDENS the muscles and increases vascularity to roughly the same extent as Oxandrolone.
Both compounds are VERY mild and produce very minimal side-effects. Both are anabolic while exhibiting very little androgenic activity, despite both chemical's abilities to bind to the A-R very effectively. NEITHER compound will "SHUT DOWN THE HPTA", defined by a complete cessation of endogenous androgen production, however, one will temporarily have REDUCED androgen production.
Oxandrolone supresses the appetite in SOME, and it also has the tendency to reduce libido. Turinabol INCREASES appetite and INCREASES Libido, so a stack of the two would be complimentary.
**IN CONCLUSION**
1.) Anavar is greater for STRENGTH gains
2.) Turinabol is greater for MASS gains.
3.) BOTH are great for muscle hardness and vascularity.
This message was brought to you by *Science of Steroids*
50mgs tbol = 2.5 tabsQuote:
Originally Posted by Asgard
They're 20mgs/tab
40-80mgs ed seems to be the favored amount. I personally get backed up at 60mgs. 40mgs ed works for me.
Tbol puts on very LITTLE weight alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by james21
If you are someone already big and has been training for a long time don't expect much gains. If your little to begin with haven't been training consistantly with a poor diet then you start taking tbol and start training and dieting right then I can see someon putting on some weight.
Well i have been training for quite a while and tried both and I can tell that tbol puts on alot more meat than var does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellmask
:lol:, you guys look like kids fighting on which one is better, superman or batman, sounds funny.........let's just say both are good compounds and better taken together, right?
I'm on 60mg/ED now and upping it too 80mg/ED today.
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Originally Posted by Swifto
Woow, not too much?
When i have used tbol at 50 mgs per day stacked with test e it went great.. you really felt the pump from the tbol.. when i bumped it to 60 mg sometimes the pump became to much and i had to stop by workout.. so from now on im going to stick to 50mg.. i loved it though and will def incorporate it in future cycles..
I've found doing back, my forearms really begin to hurt. I have to rest more and my grip is far weaker after a few sets/exercises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liftnainez
the stack's too strong, that sometimes sucks....Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifto
i got that effect everyday just by hanging up my cellphone and 5 minutes later, i'm tellin you bro, i gotta hold my elbow w/ my other arm....:1laugh:
and i'm not on juice right now!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Asgard
I started tbol (my first time on this compound) at 40mg. I wanted to see how I would react. It was fine. Now, 3 weeks later I am on 80mg/day, split into 3 doses and I have had great results. Occasionally, I get a headache but it passes. The pumps are unreal and the vascularity is nice. I am also on a restricted diet so I've leaned out quickly and nicely. Just drink a lot of water!
i thought so too, water's the key, for kidney's sake too!Quote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
Superman, batman is shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Testostack
My personal favourtie is Spiderman though
You guys are a lotta fun :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Milky87
so in conclusion wut would u guys say is the best? 50-60? and maybe 80 if u could handle it? and it seems that u run it for 6 weeks no matter how much ur taking. thanks for all the input, and sorry to hijack.