6 3 196 natural looking to gain muscle mass

**rollinwkd** · 12-31-2005, 06:46 PM

im 6 3 195 been hittin the weights for a while on and off been hitten hard for last 4 or 5 months just started on amplify protein and cr5 and flex test about 2 wks ago im a carpenter i work 8hrs then come home and workout for 45 mins goal is to hit 230 240 any SUGGESTIONS TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS here are some before and after pics the pic diff is about a year

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 06:50 PM

eat train sleep
eat train sleep
eat train sleep

See where im coming from

**chest6** · 12-31-2005, 07:19 PM

eat, train, sleep, learn how to structure a sentence

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

eat, train, sleep, learn how to structure a sentence

Please dont even try to patronise me.I have never disrespected you in any way,please explain why you feel the need to offend me.

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

eat, train, sleep, learn how to structure a sentence

.................

**tranzit** · 12-31-2005, 07:39 PM

Xtra bro i think he was talking about the guy who started the thread. His thread is one huge run in sentence. But mabey not.. who knows..

**chest6** · 12-31-2005, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Xtra bro i think he was talking about the guy who started the thread. His thread is one huge run in sentence. But mabey not.. who knows..

yup, thanks tranzit. I PMed you back Xtra...sorry about the misunderstanding. It was one big run on sentence. That post was pretty hard to follow.

**guest589745** · 12-31-2005, 07:46 PM

In my opinion you can probly add more size naturally without AAS. You might want to consider reaching your natural potential before using any AAS. You will maximize the effectiveness of your first cycle.

Sounds like you need to have a lot of calories with what you have going, if putting on mass is your goal.

what does your routine and diet look like first of all?

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

yup, thanks tranzit. I PMed you back Xtra...sorry about the misunderstanding. It was one big run on sentence. That post was pretty hard to follow.

Yeah no worries guys its cool.Sorry.Im sat here thinkin WTF!!! Im just trying to help here

Happy new year guys.

**guest589745** · 12-31-2005, 07:47 PM

Now hug you guys.

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Now hug you guys.

We have done

**tranzit** · 12-31-2005, 07:53 PM

Aww Xtra... ya big lug.. haha.. see hes a very nice guy ... then you anger him and he turns into a hooligan!

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Aww Xtra... ya big lug.. haha.. see hes a very nice guy ... then you anger him and he turns into a hooligan!

Maybe its that 5g of test a week?

**tranzit** · 12-31-2005, 08:00 PM

5g holy shit.. your putting me to shame.. im at 1.75 a week.. in test..

**Xtralarg** · 12-31-2005, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

5g holy shit.. your putting me to shame.. im at 1.75 a week.. in test..

Just a 30 day thing im trying based on a Paul Borresen thoery,started today with 750mg of test e.

**Jayhawk21** · 01-01-2006, 02:47 PM

here are some before and after pics the pic diff is about a year

Which ones are the before and after? I can't even tell the difference.

**SoulCard** · 01-01-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhawk21

Which ones are the before and after? I can't even tell the difference.

...go easy man...one year of lifting when you are still trying to get your diet in check isn't that much...dude you got a lot of potential and can easily reach your goals, focus on food as your best supplement and train your ass off!!

**Jayhawk21** · 01-01-2006, 03:16 PM

I'm being serious, is it on the far left?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-01-2006, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by rollinwkd

im 6 3 195 been hittin the weights for a while on and off been hitten hard for last 4 or 5 months just started on amplify protein and cr5 and flex test about 2 wks ago im a carpenter i work 8hrs then come home and workout for 45 mins goal is to hit 230 240 any SUGGESTIONS TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS here are some before and after pics the pic diff is about a year

Good progress.
Hit it hard for another 5 months and you'll look even better.
Train hard, eat good, and you can reach 230 without even useing steroids if you do it right and never give up.

**rollinwkd** · 01-01-2006, 03:39 PM

jayhawk wheres your pics at

**rollinwkd** · 01-01-2006, 03:45 PM

right on man, Like i said i've been hittin hard for 4 5 months just going to stay on it see what happens naturally go from there although just started on protein and cr5 about 2 wks ago, i can tell difference since then, being a carpenter doesn't help that takes alot of what i need to gain the mass but i'll update in a couple of weeks with some more pics show the progress

**Jayhawk21** · 01-01-2006, 03:49 PM

I think that came off as disrespectful, which I did not mean it to be. It is probably just how far away the pics are or what not. I just honestly can not tell and I was curious. I commend your efforts and your dedication, so I'm sorry if that came off the wrong way. You look good, in all of the pics there. I'm sure you have better genetics than me, I've trained hard for 5 years and have only got up to a measly 178 after starting out at 120 so be greatful you have better genetics than me

You might want to try Bill Starrs 5x5. http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm

If you go to Elite Fitness dot com and go in the weightlifting section you'll see alot of feedback about it. Most people love it and put on some good gains.

Good luck

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-01-2006, 03:53 PM

Good attitude, Continue to train natural. Don't be like many that start to early and are not prepared and still look small even after a major cycle due to bad training/diet. Get your diet and training down, and once you've been working out right for about a year with everything in place then you can consider juice. If I was you , I wouldn't juice until I was a lean 220lbs +. Thats very achievable for you being 6'3'' to do naturally.

**rollinwkd** · 01-01-2006, 05:57 PM

tryin to get bicep bigger

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im trying to get my bicep bigger i've been working on it for a while its grown but not like it should maybe overworked any pointers
my workout consist of
standing curls reps of 20 15 15 weight of 80
bicep curls 20 20 10 weight of 30
couple other workouts
i work out at home but everyday after work any suggestions
could it be getting overworked

**SoulCard** · 01-01-2006, 07:01 PM

heavier weights, less reps...go as heavy as you can keeping good form for 6-8 reps, no more than about 8 working sets...

**goalseeker** · 01-01-2006, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by xtralarg

We have done

EEEWWWWW...

lol

**kloter1** · 01-01-2006, 09:47 PM

whats your diet like?

**rollinwkd** · 01-02-2006, 08:41 AM

is curling a waste of time thats what they ask
i can tell the difference

**rollinwkd** · 01-02-2006, 10:41 AM

consists alot of chicken pork steak greens 2 to 3 shakes a day 2 scoops
usually
wake up drink protein shake 2 scoops take n test for breakfast go to work
eat luch at 11 get off work at 330 drink shake take cr5 and another n test about 30 mins before workout
then workout for 45 mins right now i do same routine everyday but im bout to switch it up and just work one or two muscles a day
then i drink another shake 30 to 45 mins after workout then eat big dinner bout 45 mins after that then rest eat snack 2 hrs later
chill do a little cardio 30 mins before bed and take 2 z test
wake up do it over again

**rollinwkd** · 01-02-2006, 10:41 AM

consists alot of chicken pork steak greens 2 to 3 shakes a day 2 scoops
usually
wake up drink protein shake 2 scoops take n test for breakfast go to work
eat luch at 11 get off work at 330 drink shake take cr5 and another n test about 30 mins before workout
then workout for 45 mins right now i do same routine everyday but im bout to switch it up and just work one or two muscles a day
then i drink another shake 30 to 45 mins after workout then eat big dinner bout 45 mins after that then rest eat snack 2 hrs later
chill do a little cardio 30 mins before bed and take 2 z test
wake up do it over again

**Unoid** · 01-02-2006, 03:15 PM

You're essential the same height as me. You def need to be 230 at 12% bf before you start any cycles.

Refine your diet, sleep and training to reach your near genetic limits.

**rollinwkd** · 01-02-2006, 03:54 PM

i havent started no cycles
but like i said i started on flex test it give u added strength and and mass
supports testosterone levels and maximizes recovery plus maintains estrogen levels i been on it for 2 wks starting my 3rd
i go on 4 wks off 2 on 4 off 2
well see after the next 2 wks i will post pics

**tranzit** · 01-03-2006, 12:28 AM

If you can handle it here is one of my Bicep workouts... its a once a week workout with 7 days till the next one..

1 Warm up set 50% weight standing straightbar curl nice a slow 40 reps
3 sets heavy seated dumbell curls 12-15 reps
3 sets seated preacher curls 12-15 reps
3 sets standing hammer curls 12-15 reps
3 sets seated hammer strenth heavy to failure
3 sets cable curls 50% weight to failure.

i switch it up and add diffrent exercises but this is one of my routines.

give it a try.. just be ready to be swolen for a week or so.

**rollinwkd** · 01-03-2006, 04:46 PM

thats close to what i do
i do this twice a week

preachermans curl 5 sets of 10
db curls 3 sets of 10 each arm
standing curls 5 sets of 10
single arm curls 4 sets of 10
dips off bench 3 sets of 15
tricep workout off floor 3 sets 0f 10 8 8
overhead single arm military press 3 sets of 10 8 8
dead lifts 3 sets of 10

thats my monday and friday workout try it ul be tired guaranteed

**tommy39** · 01-03-2006, 05:59 PM

Its gonna be tough to get thick at 6'3. Im 6'4 and now am 247lbs. When I wear loose clothes I dont look thick at all. My arms are now 17and3/4 and
a friend of mine is 5'10 with 17" arms and they look bigger. You have to get really big with height to look big. Its gonna take time.

**tranzit** · 01-03-2006, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by tommy39

Its gonna be tough to get thick at 6'3. Im 6'4 and now am 247lbs. When I wear loose clothes I dont look thick at all. My arms are now 17and3/4 and
a friend of mine is 5'10 with 17" arms and they look bigger. You have to get really big with height to look big. Its gonna take time.

Agreed.

**Unoid** · 01-03-2006, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by tommy39

Its gonna be tough to get thick at 6'3. Im 6'4 and now am 247lbs. When I wear loose clothes I dont look thick at all. My arms are now 17and3/4 and
a friend of mine is 5'10 with 17" arms and they look bigger. You have to get really big with height to look big. Its gonna take time.

agreed again, I'm 6-4 also. and its been hard just getting to 18" arms. I barely just got that at 9%BF I woudln't mind being shorter, easier to be a bodybuilder.