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    5th cycle, take a look bros

    vko-----Ena---------Propi-------Deca -------Oxy------Dbol ------Winstrol ---Tren -ena--
    1---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg----50mg/ed----------------------------------
    2---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg----50mg/ed----------------------------------
    3---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg----50mg/ed----------------------------------
    4---250mg/eod-----------------550mg----50mg/ed----------------------------------
    5---250mg/eod-----------------550mg----------------------------------------------
    6---250mg/eod-----------------550mg----------------------------------------------
    7---250mg/eod-----------------550mg----------------------------------------------
    8---250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---333g--- 9---250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---333g---
    10--250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---333g---
    11--250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---333g---
    12--250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---333g---
    13----------------120mg/ed-------------------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---333g---
    14----------------120mg/ed--------------------------------------------------------
    15----------------120mg/ed--------------------------------------------------------


    I`m planning my next cycle and I think it`s gonna look something like this.....
    Opinions bros

    You wan`t to know my stats?
    This is my 5th cycle, I`m 230lbs with 10% fat...........

    Don`t care for my liver, it`s iron

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    **** thats alot of gear man, btw clomid is for chicks right??? why the **** do blokes take it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfFmYdIaL
    btw clomid is for chicks right??? why the **** do blokes take it??
    Offcourse I take lots of Clomid and HCG , after the cycle and during the cycle

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    Looks good, but I see it pointless to run Winny and Dbol together, kinda defeats the purpose. Consider switching the Dbol @ 50mg/day w/Prop in the first four weeks and drop the Oxy. I'd run Tren for more than 4wks, Personally I'd run it all the way through and stop it a couple weeks before the enanthate . Possibly take an AI to help control bloat. Not sure where you are seeing clomid, I don't see it in his draft.

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    I like this cycel, nice Prop kickstart plus using it again at the end to help bring down levels. Very nice..............Definitely tak IBD's advice and dont run the Winny and Dbol together. If you really feel the need to run the Dbol 4 weeks after drol then drop the winny and up the Dbol dose to 40-50mgs for 4 weeks instead of 5. You might be dissappointed with the Dbol results though. I have never had good luck with running to 17aa orals like that with such a short time in between...........As IBD once stated again, run the Tren and Prop all the way to PCT amd start PCT 3 days after last injection. You'll get more out of the Tren that way plus its a piece of cake to mix the 2 in one syringe and inject...........

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    Once your prop runs out why so little test. Also dont like the idea of Dbol towrds the end. Is your winny oral? The rest looks interesting

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    Thanks guys for advices...
    Would someone build me up a very effective cycle by using those gears what I have.
    Winny is i.m., I don`t like oral Winny. Tren is enanthate .........All gears are legit

    Opinion what you would do different, would someone make a draft to me
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    Week 1-4 50mgs ED Drol
    Week 1-12 Test E 750mgs
    Week 1-12 Deca 550mgs
    Week 8-15 Tren E 333mg (why not Acetate?)
    Week 12-15 Prop 120mgs ED
    Week 11-15 Winny 50mgs ED

    If you're starting the Drol at week 1 you dont need the Prop. I'd save it for the end to help come down off the Enanthate . I didnt put the D-bol in there just b/c you know how I feel about running Drol then Dbol as I listed in my previous post. Tell me if this suits you a bit better buddy.

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    Here's a quick sketch...

    Wks 1-4 Drol 75-100mg/day
    Wks 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
    Wks 1-10 Tren E 3-500mg/wk
    Wks 1-11 Deca 4-600mg/wk
    Wks 12-15 Prop 100mg/day
    Wks 10-15 Winny 50mgED (opps forgot winny)

    This is just a sample, but you would get great results from this stack...

    <haha we think alike Jay, nice cycle>

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Here's a quick sketch...

    Wks 1-4 Drol 75-100mg/day
    Wks 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
    Wks 1-10 Tren E 3-500mg/wk
    Wks 1-11 Deca 4-600mg/wk
    Wks 12-15 Prop 100mg/day
    Wks 10-15 Winny 50mgED (opps forgot winny)

    This is just a sample, but you would get great results from this stack...

    haha we think alike Jay, nice cycle


    I like how you cut out the Winny. Since he wanted all his gear utilized I threw it in there. If I was purchasing this stack I would also leave out the Winny.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    Week 1-4 50mgs ED Drol
    Week 1-12 Test E 750mgs
    Week 1-12 Deca 550mgs
    Week 8-15 Tren E 333mg (why not Acetate?)
    Week 12-15 Prop 120mgs ED
    Week 11-15 Winny 50mgs ED

    If you're starting the Drol at week 1 you dont need the Prop. I'd save it for the end to help come down off the Enanthate. I didnt put the D-bol in there just b/c you know how I feel about running Drol then Dbol as I listed in my previous post. Tell me if this suits you a bit better buddy.
    Agreed.

    Run some HCG in there too, as Tren is very suppressive.

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    Guy's tren a deca should not be run at the same time. this will increase the chance of prolactin gyno.

    Test dose should be higher then the deca.

    D-bol winny should not be run at the same time. they are 17aa and will be very hard on the liver. I do not advise this.

    Oxy should be run for 8 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    I like how you cut out the Winny. Since he wanted all his gear utilized I threw it in there. If I was purchasing this stack I would also leave out the Winny.........
    Agreed, I just forgot about it... What I had listed was plenty IMO for a 5th cycle, although look at MY current one

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Here's a quick sketch...

    Wks 1-4 Drol 75-100mg/day
    Wks 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
    Wks 1-10 Tren E 3-500mg/wk
    Wks 1-11 Deca 4-600mg/wk
    Wks 12-15 Prop 100mg/day
    Wks 10-15 Winny 50mgED (opps forgot winny)

    This is just a sample, but you would get great results from this stack...

    <haha we think alike Jay, nice cycle>
    Wouldnt run the Tren/Deca the same time due to progesterone related sides. But if you can get some Dostinex or Bromo, thats a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    Week 1-4 50mgs ED Drol
    Week 1-12 Test E 750mgs
    Week 1-12 Deca 550mgs
    Week 8-15 Tren E 333mg (why not Acetate?)
    Week 12-15 Prop 120mgs ED
    Week 11-15 Winny 50mgs ED

    If you're starting the Drol at week 1 you dont need the Prop. I'd save it for the end to help come down off the Enanthate. I didnt put the D-bol in there just b/c you know how I feel about running Drol then Dbol as I listed in my previous post. Tell me if this suits you a bit better buddy.
    i would agree with Jayhova16 except id pull the deca out a week earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Guy's tren a deca should not be run at the same time. this will increase the chance of prolactin gyno.

    Test dose should be higher then the deca.

    D-bol winny should not be run at the same time. they are 17aa and will be very hard on the liver. I do not advise this.

    Oxy should be run for 8 weeks.
    You got there before me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Guy's tren a deca should not be run at the same time. this will increase the chance of prolactin gyno. I have known many people who have had No problems at all from this combo. So I disagree, although I would recommend TrenA for this very reason.

    Test dose should be higher then the deca. From what we listed, it is.

    D-bol winny should not be run at the same time. they are 17aa and will be very hard on the liver. I do not advise this. Agreed

    Oxy should be run for 8 weeks. 8wks seems a bit long for drol, I am currently running it 5wks I'll let you know how I like it, hard for me to comment for I have never tried it.
    Just commenting on what you had above, not sure who it was direct at, good advise though Gsxxr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Guy's tren a deca should not be run at the same time. this will increase the chance of prolactin gyno.

    Test dose should be higher then the deca.

    D-bol winny should not be run at the same time. they are 17aa and will be very hard on the liver. I do not advise this.

    Oxy should be run for 8 weeks.
    Yep good stuff, fundamentals of aas use imo!

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    except the 8 weeks of oxy, not worthwhile imo!

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    5 Cycle
    Wks 1-4 d-bol 75
    Wks 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
    Wks 1-12 Tren E 3-500mg/wk
    Wks 1-12 Eq 600mg/wk
    Wks 12-15 Prop 125mg/day
    Wks 10-15 Winny 50mgED (opps forgot winny)


    b-6 200mg day and l-dex

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    Nice, see pencil there are tons of different routes you can go, just pick one. I'd save some of what you have for next run though as others are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    5 Cycle
    Wks 1-4 d-bol 75
    Wks 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
    Wks 1-12 Tren E 3-500mg/wk
    Wks 1-12 Eq 600mg/wk
    Wks 12-15 Prop 125mg/day
    Wks 10-15 Winny 50mgED (opps forgot winny)


    b-6 200mg day and l-dex
    Look gd 2 me!

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    Unbelievable guys, lots of great drafts Thanks all of you.
    Someone asked why not tren acetate, because I have 20ml vial of tren ena 100mg/ml...
    Maybe next time acetate.
    What do you think about my test ena intake...? 250mg/eod. Is there gonna be big differenses between 750mg/week and 250mg/eod?

    I read about steroid .com steroid profile of Parabolan , there reads that great combo is Parabolan + winstrol + dboll....
    I know that I don`t have Parabolan, but I thinks that Tren ena + Winstrol + Dbol stack gonna rock great..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    5 Cycle
    Wks 1-4 d-bol 75
    Wks 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
    Wks 1-12 Tren E 3-500mg/wk
    Wks 1-12 Eq 600mg/wk
    Wks 12-15 Prop 125mg/day
    Wks 10-15 Winny 50mgED (opps forgot winny)


    b-6 200mg day and l-dex


    You love B-6 huh Gsxxr? I notice that you incorporate it in most of your layouts for peoples cycles.

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    Why b6? At last cycle I eat it all cycle 200mg/ed........I don`t feel nothing special ecept that cycle rock like a hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensilneck
    What do you think about my test ena intake...? 250mg/eod. Is there gonna be big differenses between 750mg/week and 250mg/eod?
    There is no reason for EOD injections with the longer ester of enanthate , I'd shoot both of them combined on Mon+Thurs for example. Twice a week is fine. Also, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the examples posted on the steroid .com homepage, needs serious updating.

    Also, next time you may want to post a proposed cycle and then buy your compounds, rather than buy them and then ask for suggestions. Kinda makes more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    There is no reason for EOD injections with the longer ester of enanthate , I'd shoot both of them combined on Mon+Thurs for example. Twice a week is fine. Also, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the examples posted on the steroid .com homepage, needs serious updating.

    Also, next time you may want to post a proposed cycle and then buy your compounds, rather than buy them and then ask for suggestions. Kinda makes more sense.
    Yes I know that there is no reason to inject enanthate eod, but I like inject so why not Thanks for advice about steroid.com, thats what I thought so, old information.

    I have so much aas at home that I can kill bull with these

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    do u think 2mls of sust250 + 4ml of deca50 per week in a 2month cycle is alot?? >:|

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    We'll address your question in a fresh thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfFmYdIaL
    **** thats alot of gear man, btw clomid is for chicks right??? why the **** do blokes take it??
    Add in this question too or start another thread, this is a Very simple question to run a search on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfFmYdIaL
    do u think 2mls of sust250 + 4ml of deca50 per week in a 2month cycle is alot?? >:|
    man Open new thread, ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    Looks really good PN. I'd up the Dbol dose to 50mgs and run it for 4 weeks instead of 6 though. Plus running Winny, Dbol and Tren at the same time is really rough on the liver and kidneys. Cut out the Dbol if you're really looking to shred up towards the end. Keep the winny and up it to 50mgs ED. Buuuuuuuuuuut if you're feeling like you want to gain a bit more then stick to the Dbol.

    I havent had the best experience with running 2 orals that close together in time so I'd cut out the Dbol and use the winny. Threw in the comment on the Dbol just in case you choose that route..........


    I had to edit this b/c I saw that you're taking the acetate form and you wrote EOD. I highly recommend taking it ED. Drop to 50mgs and run it ED. Reason being is that it will really cut down on sides plus towards the end you can mix it with the Prop and inject ED. So really you will only be running it ED instead of EOD for 3 weeks. You can deal with taht can't you big boy?
    Thanks for good advices bro.
    I`m not gonna shred up with that cycle, I`m gonna take cutting cycle later this year when I`m probably compete....
    I drop the Winny and up the Dbol dose to 50mgs and shot 0,5ml tren acetat ED. My tren contains 75mg/ml....
    Like that:

    vko-----Ena---------Propi-------Deca ---------Oxy------Dbol----Trenacetat--
    1---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    2---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    3---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    4---250mg/eod-----------------550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    5---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    6---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    7---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    8---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    9---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    10--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    12--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    13----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    14----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    15----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--

    Is that better now ?
    Last edited by Pensilneck; 01-08-2006 at 03:10 PM.

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    Looks really good PN. I'd up the Dbol dose to 50mgs and run it for 4 weeks instead of 6 though. Plus running Winny, Dbol and Tren at the same time is really rough on the liver and kidneys. Cut out the Dbol if you're really looking to shred up towards the end. Keep the winny and up it to 50mgs ED. Buuuuuuuuuuut if you're feeling like you want to gain a bit more then stick to the Dbol.

    I havent had the best experience with running 2 orals that close together in time so I'd cut out the Dbol and use the winny. Threw in the comment on the Dbol just in case you choose that route..........


    I had to edit this b/c I saw that you're taking the acetate form and you wrote EOD. I highly recommend taking it ED. Drop to 50mgs and run it ED. Reason being is that it will really cut down on sides plus towards the end you can mix it with the Prop and inject ED. So really you will only be running it ED instead of EOD for 3 weeks. You can deal with taht can't you big boy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    Looks really good PN. I'd up the Dbol dose to 50mgs and run it for 4 weeks instead of 6 though. Plus running Winny, Dbol and Tren at the same time is really rough on the liver and kidneys. Cut out the Dbol if you're really looking to shred up towards the end. Keep the winny and up it to 50mgs ED. Buuuuuuuuuuut if you're feeling like you want to gain a bit more then stick to the Dbol.

    I havent had the best experience with running 2 orals that close together in time so I'd cut out the Dbol and use the winny. Threw in the comment on the Dbol just in case you choose that route..........


    I had to edit this b/c I saw that you're taking the acetate form and you wrote EOD. I highly recommend taking it ED. Drop to 50mgs and run it ED. Reason being is that it will really cut down on sides plus towards the end you can mix it with the Prop and inject ED. So really you will only be running it ED instead of EOD for 3 weeks. You can deal with taht can't you big boy?
    Thanks for good advices bro.
    I`m not gonna shred up with that cycle, I`m gonna take cutting cycle later this year when I`m probably compete....
    I drop the Winny and up the Dbol dose to 50mgs and shot 0,5ml tren acetat ED. My tren contains 75mg/ml....
    Like that:

    vko-----Ena---------Propi-------Deca ---------Oxy------Dbol----Trenacetat--
    1---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    2---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    3---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    4---250mg/eod-----------------550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    5---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    6---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    7---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    8---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    9---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    10--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    12--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    13----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    14----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    15----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--

    Is that better now ?

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    I see no problem with running deca and tren together, as long as he use a progestin blocker like bromo. I would stack the compounds you have choosed to use like this! (d-bol is not needed here, you will explode without it!)
    anadrol -100mgs ed 1-4
    test e- 600mgs ew 1-12
    prop-100mgs ed 1-3
    tren-50 mgs ed 4-12
    deca-400mgs ew 1-12
    winstrol -100mgs ed 9-14
    +nolva/bromo/proviron

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    Hi guys again Tell me wich one of those two cycles are better.......
    Thats all I wanna hear

    Cycle1:
    vko-----Ena---------Propi-------Deca ---------Oxy------Dbol ----Trenacetat--
    1---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    2---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    3---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    4---250mg/eod-----------------550mg------50mg/ed------------------------
    5---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    6---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    7---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    8---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    9---250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------------------------------
    10--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    11--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    12--250mg/eod-----------------550mg--------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    13----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    14----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--
    15----------------120mg/ed------------------------50mg/ed----37,5mg/ed--






    Cycle2:
    vko-----Ena---------Propi-------Deca-------Oxy------Dbol------Winstrol ---Trenacetat--
    1---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg----50mg/ed-------------------------------------
    2---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg----50mg/ed-------------------------------------
    3---250mg/eod---100mg/ed-----550mg----50mg/ed-------------------------------------
    4---250mg/eod-----------------550mg----50mg/ed-------------------------------------
    5---250mg/eod-----------------550mg-------------------------------------------------
    6---250mg/eod-----------------550mg-------------------------------------------------
    7---250mg/eod-----------------550mg-------------------------------------------------
    8---250mg/eod-----------------550mg-------------------------------------------------
    9---250mg/eod-----------------550mg-------------------------------------------------
    10--250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---75mg/eod-
    11--250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---75mg/eod-
    12--250mg/eod-----------------550mg---------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---75mg/eod-
    13----------------120mg/ed-------------------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---75mg/eod-
    14----------------120mg/ed-------------------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---75mg/eod-
    15----------------120mg/ed-------------------------30mg/ed---50mg/eod---75mg/eod-

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    What is ENA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    What is ENA?
    What is propi?????? Both are testosterones, different esters
    Doesn`t anybody have nothing more to say?

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    i knew prop, just not ENA, never hear of it that way before

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