beginner in need of help

[NovaKyle]

Ok, i decided to screw the all natural way and give myself some "octane booster" I had a friend who was on some stuff, so i asked him to assist me in getting started. I bought some deca QV 300. My friend said 1cc a week and in a few weeks i should start gaining. Well, i never gain shit, 10 weeks later. I thought i may have had a bad batch, so i bought the same shit again, same results, shit. This time i decided to switch to a different brand, now im on noradren 200, im taking 1 1/2 cc's every 5 days. I just started my 2nd week, but now i see that people say not to take anything without test? im lost here, what is test? i want to know before i go thru another vial with no results.... and can someone help me with dosage... i mean 200mg. and stuff, i know what cc's are, thats about it. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!

[ChefJ]

wow? You have alot to learn before you start injecting stuff, whether it is real or not, into your body. Do some searching and reading on here and that will help you get a head start. Besides that what are your stats? It sounds like you haven't been lifting for all that long.

[Pinnacle]

Ok, i decided to screw the all natural way and give myself some "octane booster" I had a friend who was on some stuff, so i asked him to assist me in getting started. I bought some deca QV 300. My friend said 1cc a week and in a few weeks i should start gaining. Well, i never gain shit, 10 weeks later. I thought i may have had a bad batch, so i bought the same shit again, same results, shit. This time i decided to switch to a different brand, now im on noradren 200, im taking 1 1/2 cc's every 5 days. I just started my 2nd week, but now i see that people say not to take anything without test? im lost here, what is test? i want to know before i go thru another vial with no results.... and can someone help me with dosage... i mean 200mg. and stuff, i know what cc's are, thats about it. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!

How many weeks have you been running deca (or whatever it is)?

test = Testosterone

If you are taking something that is 200 mg/ml,1 cc would be 200 mgs.So you've been shooting 300 mgs of noradren weekly.

[NovaKyle]

I have been lifting for a little over 2 years, but natrually, i weigh 150, have just about no fat, and i am very slowly making progress, but need a boost. why does my friend take the same stuff and get results, we work out together and do almost the same workout

[Pinnacle]

I have been lifting for a little over 2 years, but natrually, i weigh 150, have just about no fat, and i am very slowly making progress, but need a boost. why does my friend take the same stuff and get results, we work out together and do almost the same workout

Would you mind posting your diet?I suspect the answer lies there.

[SS1476]

..just curious, how old are U?

[NovaKyle]

in the morning eggs, milk, and a bagle,
an hr. or so later chicken, maybe a can of tuna,
later usually some pasta
then more chicken
for dinner a steak with some corn
before bed i eat anything from the above list
i do take protein supplaments about twice a day

[NovaKyle]

20, and sorry i sound dumb, i was listening to someone who i thought new there shit, but come to find out they dont

[SS1476]

Ohh..boy.

Please, read the diet forum, its a
great resource. I spent alot of time
there reading in the background.

BTW..your too young to be sticking
things into your body..what would your
parents think if something happened to you?

Seriously.
Read and learn, and gain some weight

[SS1476]

Oh..BTW, you should get yourself
checked out, I would. But Im no expert.
Maybe someone wil chime in..

[NovaKyle]

Thank you, but since i have started, i would like to finish on a better note than wasting my time and money, so as far as what im taking in the ass, any advice on that?? again, thank all of you for being patient, i deeply appriciate

[SS1476]

I know.

Someone hopefully will chime in..

[Pinnacle]

20, and sorry i sound dumb, i was listening to someone who i thought new there shit, but come to find out they dont

You don't sound dumb bro.You just need to learn how to eat properly ect.

You on the right board to learn.Check out the stickies in the diet forum,plus we have many other forums that may interest you.
Also,we have a valuable tool here.It's the search feature.Located to the upper right hand corner.Use that to search any topics of interest.The archives here are loaded with valuable information passed on by members over the years.
Stick around and educate YOURSELF!!

[NovaKyle]

and i am printing the diet from this page per day, so that should take care of that

[NovaKyle]

Thanks, will do

[testosterona]

what is your height? i suggest you stop your deca cycle IMEDIATLY. your diet is horrid too say the least. not meaning to be rude but you have some major improvements too make in that area. deca will help build muscle in that it increases protien synthesis. in order too take advantage of this effect you need adequite protien. id guess you are consuming less than half of what you need too grow. calories are HUGE as well. time too start focusing on the diet bro, ditch the drugs for now. they will do you no good.....as you've already demonstrated.

[Pinnacle]

Read this thread..........

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

[NovaKyle]

that looks like a great site, i guess i better start reading. and i will quit like you have all said, i tell myself that i am serious about this, i guess its time to slow down and build with the basics. Thanks to you all you have been more than a great help

[Canadiantiger]

Steroid Usage Basics For Beginers. 101 This is about the best getting started material I have read. It like he says is not the bible but an excellent place to start. IMO

[testosterona]

great man, i'm glad too hear you taking our advice. those two threads are a great starting point. good luck too you. and remember, train hard, eat even harder.

[grimnlock]

You don't sound dumb bro.You just need to learn how to eat properly ect.

You on the right board to learn.Check out the stickies in the diet forum,plus we have many other forums that may interest you.
Also,we have a valuable tool here.It's the search feature.Located to the upper right hand corner.Use that to search any topics of interest.The archives here are loaded with valuable information passed on by members over the years.
Stick around and educate YOURSELF!!

You're such a sweet man....

[longhorn814]

make sure you do some reading on PCT too

[musselman]

3 word of advice if you really want to grow bro... Eat, eat and eat...