Cyp sides

**little big guy** · 01-05-2006, 09:50 AM

For my first cycle I used test E, but am considering switching to cyp for my next cycle due to the fact that it is a different brand but form the same source. Has anyone who has used cyp noticed any bad sides? I was told by a guy at the gym that your face swells up like a chipmunk bc of the water retention in your face.

**Kale** · 01-05-2006, 09:52 AM

Mate there is basically no difference between Test C and Test E, the sides are identical. If you didnt have sides with Test E you probably wont have sides with Test C

***SPIKE*** · 01-05-2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by little big guy

I was told by a guy at the gym that your face swells up like a chipmunk bc of the water retention in your face.

This is all based on the individual not to mention diet. As kale stated C and E are very similar. I have used both and seen no differnece so stick with the cheaper Test E.

**smiler** · 01-05-2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by little big guy

For my first cycle I used test E, but am considering switching to cyp for my next cycle due to the fact that it is a different brand but form the same source. Has anyone who has used cyp noticed any bad sides? I was told by a guy at the gym that your face swells up like a chipmunk bc of the water retention in your face.

I take test cyp and yes my face is bloated, never tried test e so I can't say if it would be different

**shortie** · 01-05-2006, 10:17 AM

For prolly 95% of all users E=Cyp and vice versa, but a very small number of guys swear by one or the other cause of sides they got from the other, only way you'll know is to give it a whirl. But go in with an open mind, the placebo effect can be amazing.

**grimnlock** · 01-05-2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Mate there is basically no difference between Test C and Test E, the sides are identical. If you didnt have sides with Test E you probably wont have sides with Test C

The half life is different!!

Btw where in Asia are u?

**grimnlock** · 01-05-2006, 10:46 AM

Anabolic Review Steroid Profile by Anthony Roberts

Testosterone Enanthate

17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
Testosterone base + Enanthate ester
Molecular Weight: 412.6112
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 130.1864
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester):C7 H12 O
Melting Point (base): 155
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 300-2000mg+ week
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 15 days
Detection Time: 3 months
Anabolic /Androgenic ratio:100/100.

Testosterone cypionate

17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
Testosterone base + cypionate ester
Formula: C27 H40 O3
Molecular Weight: 412.6112
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 132.1184
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester): C8 H14 O2
Melting Point (base): 155
Melting Point (ester): 98 - 104 C
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 300-2000mg+ week
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 15-16 days
Detection Time: 3 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.

**little big guy** · 01-05-2006, 02:16 PM

I think that I will try the cyp, just for the simple fact that the test e I can get is QV, which worked great last time but I herd it was under dosed and the cyp is another brand. The cyp is actually the same price form my supplier.

**Kale** · 01-05-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by grimnlock

The half life is different!!

Btw where in Asia are u?

The half life is different I agree, but they are still so similar that I would argue that the sides you would get would be the same from either. I am in Singapore

Cypionate : Chemical Structure C8H14O2.

Also referred to as Cyclopentylpropionic acid, cyclopentylpropionate. Cypionate is a very popular ester here in the U.S., although it is scarcely found outside this region. Its release duration is almost identical to enanthate (10-14 days), and the two are likewise thought to be interchangeable in U.S. medicine. Althletes commonly hold the belief than cypionate is more powerful than enanthate, although realistically there is little difference between the two. The enanthate ester is in fact slightly smaller than cypionate, and it therefore releases a small (perhaps a few milligrams) amount of steroid more in comparison.

**Prada** · 01-05-2006, 07:42 PM

Use some AI while on, itll help keep the bloat at bay.

**goalseeker** · 01-05-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by shortie

only way you'll know is to give it a whirl. .

Exactly!!! Im gonna start a cycle in 8 days of 1000/wk.. woo-hoo!!

**grimnlock** · 01-06-2006, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

The half life is different I agree, but they are still so similar that I would argue that the sides you would get would be the same from either. I am in Singapore

Cypionate : Chemical Structure C8H14O2.

Also referred to as Cyclopentylpropionic acid, cyclopentylpropionate. Cypionate is a very popular ester here in the U.S., although it is scarcely found outside this region. Its release duration is almost identical to enanthate (10-14 days), and the two are likewise thought to be interchangeable in U.S. medicine. Althletes commonly hold the belief than cypionate is more powerful than enanthate, although realistically there is little difference between the two. The enanthate ester is in fact slightly smaller than cypionate, and it therefore releases a small (perhaps a few milligrams) amount of steroid more in comparison.

Hehe... i know... i was just being a pri*k....

Singapore huh... nice...