Dbol or Tbol at end of cycle?

**G-Force** · 01-09-2006, 06:46 AM

first 12 weeks are a big ol' bulk - last 4 will be reserved for cutting before entering PCT

would Tbol be a better option in weeks 8 thru to 12 - i havent used it before and am unsure of dosages?

weeks 1 - 4 anadrol 100mg ED

weeks 1- 12 sust 750mg EW

weeks 1 - 12 deca - 400mg EW

weeks 8 - 12 40mg Dbol ED. ot TBOL??

weeks 12 -16 100mg ED prop

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-09-2006, 07:33 AM

i would go with the tbol ..... dbol will put a lot of water on u ..... the tbol will give u lean gains in comparison to dbol

**G-Force** · 01-09-2006, 08:05 AM

i release there is wwater retention with Dbol but i have had good gains with it iin the past and the water would drop off within a couple of days after using

Tbol isnt like anavar or winstrol is it? eg do you need to be reasonably lean to notice the gains?

i always put on fat during bulkers - that is why i was leaning toward the Dbol

**Pinnacle** · 01-09-2006, 08:09 AM

Why do you want to cut before PCT?This is not the time to be dieting.In fact you should be upping your caloric intake.

~Pinnacle~

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-09-2006, 08:09 AM

tbol is compared to var by some .... supposedly more strength and lean gains .... and it supposed to raise libido

speaking by hearsay, not personal experience though

**marcus300** · 01-09-2006, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Why do you want to cut before PCT?This is not the time to be dieting.In fact you should be upping your caloric intake.

~Pinnacle~

i agree with the above, why restrict you calories during pct this is the most important time,diet plays a big role in maintenance during pct, with this in mind i would pick between the two dbol , ive had some great gains at the end of a cycle doing this,

**G-Force** · 01-09-2006, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Why do you want to cut before PCT?This is not the time to be dieting.In fact you should be upping your caloric intake.

~Pinnacle~

because i put on fat with bulkers and i am not exactly what i would call lean right now

it was 50/50 wether i would do a cutter or bulker so decided to do both

last time i cut - i did i 5 week mini bulker before hand which worked really well

i was planning on upping my calories in PCT after the Cut and stopping cardio for 6 weeks

**Mesomorphyl** · 01-09-2006, 08:28 AM

Not used Tbol... But have used Dbol at the end as well as some friends doing the same thing... Dbol might put on water but it is very anabolic and will keep your levels up until pct. I like orals or short esters in the beginnings and ends of cycles.

**Martin R** · 01-09-2006, 08:40 AM

whid tgat dosages you should use nolvadex or clomiphen sitrate to avoid aromatisering

**G-Force** · 01-09-2006, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Not used Tbol... But have used Dbol at the end as well as some friends doing the same thing... Dbol might put on water but it is very anabolic and will keep your levels up until pct. I like orals or short esters in the beginnings and ends of cycles.

me too