cytomel and ephedrine

**G-Force** · 01-09-2006, 10:44 AM

i am experienced (reasonably) with AAS aswell as clen and eph but have recently been researching the thyroid hormones for my next cycle

i'm thinking of using Cytomel (which i believe is T3????? i always get T3 and T4 mixed up)

i hear that it is fine to run along side Clen but i can find no mention of combining it with ephedrine??

is it safe to do this?

i will be running test prop @100mg ED alongside the fat burners

**fred9** · 01-09-2006, 11:50 AM

i alternate the clen and ephedrine while on t3...2weeks clen 2 weeks eph etc..

**G-Force** · 01-10-2006, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by fred9

i alternate the clen and ephedrine while on t3...2weeks clen 2 weeks eph etc..

thats what i was planning too

just wanted to make sure my heart wasnt gonna explode in the process

**NotSmall** · 01-10-2006, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

thats what i was planning too

just wanted to make sure my heart wasnt gonna explode in the process

'tis what I'm just embarking on too, lemme know if your heart pops & I'll stop!

**G-Force** · 01-10-2006, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

'tis what I'm just embarking on too, lemme know if your heart pops & I'll stop!

ok i'll try and email you from anabolic heaven

**NotSmall** · 01-10-2006, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

ok i'll try and email you from anabolic heaven

Thanks G, I would appreciate it!

I heard their broadband is rapid!

**Blown_SC** · 01-10-2006, 09:32 AM

Yes, Cytomel is T3.

You can combine them, yes, just don't use a ridiculous dosage.

I wouldn't alternate them like that either, by the way. T3 with the clen /albuterol/etc. would help to keep your beta-2's from downregulating.

**G-Force** · 01-10-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Yes, Cytomel is T3.

You can combine them, yes, just don't use a ridiculous dosage.

I wouldn't alternate them like that either, by the way. T3 with the clen/albuterol/etc. would help to keep your beta-2's from downregulating.

are you saying not alternate clen with eph while on T3?

if so how come?

**MatrixGuy** · 01-10-2006, 12:28 PM

I wouldn't advise taking clen and ephedrine together... just my opinion though. I would run the clen and T3 constantly and leave out the ephedrine.

**Blown_SC** · 01-10-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

are you saying not alternate clen with eph while on T3?

if so how come?

Yes, I am. I would just use the clen. and t3 together, they work very well together.

**G-Force** · 01-11-2006, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by MatrixGuy

I wouldn't advise taking clen and ephedrine together... just my opinion though. I would run the clen and T3 constantly and leave out the ephedrine.

Matirx you donut

not at the same time - i meant alternately

doh

Blown SC - i'm not sure i can get hold of that stuff u recommended
to keep the beta 2 receptors active

so i'm thinking in this case perhaps the ephedrine would come in handy?

maybe 3 weeks clen - 1 week ECA

**Blown_SC** · 01-12-2006, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

Blown SC - i'm not sure i can get hold of that stuff u recommended
to keep the beta 2 receptors active

so i'm thinking in this case perhaps the ephedrine would come in handy?

maybe 3 weeks clen - 1 week ECA

No, I'm talking about T3. T3 helps to keep them from downregulating.

Also, IMO, I feel if you used Albuterol vs. Clen , they wouldn't downregulate as much either....

Ephedrine would downregulate them as well... just not as severely IMO.

**themetalmich** · 01-12-2006, 12:58 AM

How about two weeks Clen , two weeks t3 ect ect... would that be effective?

**G-Force** · 01-12-2006, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

No, I'm talking about T3. T3 helps to keep them from downregulating.

Also, IMO, I feel if you used Albuterol vs. Clen , they wouldn't downregulate as much either....

Ephedrine would downregulate them as well... just not as severely IMO.

dude u keep confusing me

what is Albuterol?

your last 2 sentences dont correlate with each other

**Bossman** · 01-12-2006, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

dude u keep confusing me

what is Albuterol?

your last 2 sentences dont correlate with each other

Albuterol is similar to Clenbuterol . He's saying substitute Albuterol for clen . I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that Albuterol was not as effective as clen?

Also, he's saying just use clen and T3, not eca stack at all. T3 will help up regulate the receptors flooded with clen. Also, I would take some benedryl every 3rd week ED to help upregulate beta 2 receptors.

**Blown_SC** · 01-12-2006, 10:12 AM

Yes, I am saying that you can substitute albuterol for clen , and you will likely have less beta-2 downregulation. I've never used clen, but I really like albuterol.

And yes, I'm saying to forget the ephedrine altogether.

**G-Force** · 01-12-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

And yes, I'm saying to forget the ephedrine altogether.

oh ok
why's that then?

is that ephedrine in general or just when on T3

i love my ECA - only thing that stops me fallin asleep at work

**MatrixGuy** · 01-12-2006, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

Matirx you donut

not at the same time - i meant alternately

doh

Blown SC - i'm not sure i can get hold of that stuff u recommended
to keep the beta 2 receptors active

so i'm thinking in this case perhaps the ephedrine would come in handy?

maybe 3 weeks clen - 1 week ECA

Sorry bro, mis-read. Not been feeling myself lately.

**Blown_SC** · 01-12-2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

oh ok
why's that then?

is that ephedrine in general or just when on T3

i love my ECA - only thing that stops me fallin asleep at work

I don't feel you need it, I would just use Clen (I would prefer Albuterol personally, but it's your choice) and T3.... use it for 6wks straight, then take a break.. and yes, it's a good idea to run some Benadryl/Ketotifen as well.

Helios (which contains Albuterol) and T3 will be the only things I use in regards to Thermo's/Fat 'burners' in the future.... works phenomenally well.

Just sharing some opinions with you bro, it's your body, do with it what you wish...

Good luck.

**G-Force** · 01-13-2006, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

I don't feel you need it, I would just use Clen (I would prefer Albuterol personally, but it's your choice) and T3.... use it for 6wks straight, then take a break.. and yes, it's a good idea to run some Benadryl/Ketotifen as well.

Helios (which contains Albuterol) and T3 will be the only things I use in regards to Thermo's/Fat 'burners' in the future.... works phenomenally well.

Just sharing some opinions with you bro, it's your body, do with it what you wish...

Good luck.

ok thanks for the advice - my problem is i dont think i can get hol of benadryl here in the uk- i'm not sure i will have a look for it, but i have never heard of it before

unless MATRIX has heard of it??

if i cant get hold of it i wouldnt be keen on runnnig clen (i cant get albuterol) past 2 weeks due to downgrading beta 2 receptors - hence the ephedrine

thanks for the advise though - i will look into albuterol and benadryl

cheers

**G-Force** · 01-13-2006, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by MatrixGuy

Sorry bro, mis-read. Not been feeling myself lately.

it must be that bird of yours
whats she doin to you?

**NotSmall** · 01-13-2006, 02:53 AM

I could be wrong but isn't benadryl cough medicine of some sort?

**G-Force** · 01-13-2006, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

I could be wrong but isn't benadryl cough medicine of some sort?

thats what i thought initially

your thinking of ben****

**G-Force** · 01-13-2006, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

thats what i thought initially

your thinking of ben****

WTF - why has it stared out that word - its a name of a cough syrup not a swear word

Ben@lin

subtitute the '@' for an 'A'

**Blown_SC** · 01-13-2006, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

ok thanks for the advice - my problem is i dont think i can get hol of benadryl here in the uk- i'm not sure i will have a look for it, but i have never heard of it before

unless MATRIX has heard of it??

if i cant get hold of it i wouldnt be keen on runnnig clen (i cant get albuterol) past 2 weeks due to downgrading beta 2 receptors - hence the ephedrine

thanks for the advise though - i will look into albuterol and benadryl

cheers

You're forgetting that ephedrine will also down-regulate them.

What I'm getting at, is that you could use Albuterol and T3, without having to use Benadryl/Ketotifen, because Albuterol doesn't down-regulate your beta-2's to the same extent, and t3 helps to upregulate them... make sense now?

Also, Bena.lin is ****'d out, because of the word A L I N (in reference to A L I N the source).

**G-Force** · 01-13-2006, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

You're forgetting that ephedrine will also down-regulate them.

What I'm getting at, is that you could use Albuterol and T3, without having to use Benadryl/Ketotifen, because Albuterol doesn't down-regulate your beta-2's to the same extent, and t3 helps to upregulate them... make sense now?

Also, Bena.lin is ****'d out, because of the word A L I N (in reference to A L I N the source).

dont Eph and clen work on different receptors

**Blown_SC** · 01-13-2006, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

dont Eph and clen work on different receptors

Not true. Ephedrine hits them hard...

Read this...

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=200237

**G-Force** · 01-13-2006, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Not true. Ephedrine hits them hard...

Read this...

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=200237

hmm interesting read

i have never heard studies of clen being used for prolonged periods

thanks

**rlj** · 01-13-2006, 10:59 AM

Question:
am currently using Winny, taking 1cc every other day, but recently I have noticed that my arm that I am using is extremely sore for about 24 hours. Usually very hot to the touch and tender. Any advice??

**G-Force** · 01-16-2006, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by rlj

Question:
am currently using Winny, taking 1cc every other day, but recently I have noticed that my arm that I am using is extremely sore for about 24 hours. Usually very hot to the touch and tender. Any advice??

its common practice to start a new thread with a question like that,since it doesn’t relate to this thread

but anyway, post injection pain is very common, but I find within a couple of weeks the pain lessens and eventually stops altogther

**MatrixGuy** · 01-16-2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

ok thanks for the advice - my problem is i dont think i can get hol of benadryl here in the uk- i'm not sure i will have a look for it, but i have never heard of it before

unless MATRIX has heard of it??

if i cant get hold of it i wouldnt be keen on runnnig clen (i cant get albuterol) past 2 weeks due to downgrading beta 2 receptors - hence the ephedrine

thanks for the advise though - i will look into albuterol and benadryl

cheers

I have been trying to get hold of it too.

I know its present in some of the "cough mixtures" like benylin

**rlj** · 01-16-2006, 02:42 PM

G-Force,
Thanks for the advice on Winny, sorry I was not sure when & where to ask, but I do appreciate you taking the time to help me out. I will continue using 10cc every other day and hopefully the pain will go away.
RLJ

**Bossman** · 01-16-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Not true. Ephedrine hits them hard...

Read this...

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=200237

That's a very good point. How many times have you read people advising alternating clen and ECA stack. They both down regulate the same receptors.

Ive never tried albuterol but I might try it. Lately clen makes me feel like I was hit in the head with a board.

**IronAdonis** · 01-16-2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by fred9

i alternate the clen and ephedrine while on t3...2weeks clen 2 weeks eph etc..

Sounds good.

**neverenuff21** · 01-16-2006, 05:28 PM

benadryl is an anti-histaminefor you guys in the uk

**G-Force** · 01-17-2006, 02:43 AM

i just got some benadryl from boots
so u can prob get it from any chemist, i was suprised cos
i thought it would be prescription only

you can even get them cheaply on Ebay

i have no idea how many to take though cos they dont state how many mg's
in each tablet? can anyone help?

**G-Force** · 01-17-2006, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by IronAdonis

Sounds good.

I think you kind of missed the point of this thread

**MatrixGuy** · 01-17-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

i just got some benadryl from boots
so u can prob get it from any chemist, i was suprised cos
i thought it would be prescription only

you can even get them cheaply on Ebay

i have no idea how many to take though cos they dont state how many mg's
in each tablet? can anyone help?

Thats strange. I looked for them in Boots and when i looked at the ingredients it never stated that they contained diphenhydramine.

Which ones were they bro, one a day ones?

**G-Force** · 01-18-2006, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by MatrixGuy

Thats strange. I looked for them in Boots and when i looked at the ingredients it never stated that they contained diphenhydramine.

Which ones were they bro, one a day ones?

i'm not sure if the ones i bought are effective
on the back it states 8mg of Acrivastine per tab

i'm not sure if these will work

????

**Milky87** · 01-18-2006, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by neverenuff21

benadryl is an anti-histaminefor you guys in the uk

This might be worth checking out. I know tha in the US 'Benadryl' is an antihistamine due to it containing diphenhydramine, but here in Australia, it is a cough suppressant because it contains dextromethorphan.

Actually its really strange, our Benadrul doesnt have the diphenhydramine due to it causing delirium in higher doses, instead they give us a preparation that is a psychedelic dissociative in higher doses.

Its possible to find Benadryl with diphenhydramine here, but it also contains ammonium chloride, which is capable of suppressing the respiratory system in the doses required