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    Thumbs up first cycle questions?

    i have been trying to bulk up for a bit without juice now i just feal im putting on fat. the cardio is starting to kill me.
    i wanted to do my first cycle off

    wk 1-4 anadrol 100mg 2tabs ed
    wk 1-10 deca 2 vils a wk 1mon 1 thurs
    wk 1-12 stus/test e 2 amps a wk 1mon 1 thurs
    wk 1-16 nolva 10mg ed
    wk 14-16 clenb
    wk 14-16 clomid

    im not really to shure on my pct yetdont really know the doses i should take and for how long?

    but my main question is can i still lose body fat if i go on the juice or should i wait?

    my traning goes like
    mon- chest+tris 40mins cardio
    tues- 60mins cardio
    wed- back+40 mins cardio
    thurs- 60mins cardio
    friday-shoulders+bis
    sat- legs
    sun- off (cheat day for my diet)

    do you think i could lose weight but still put somthing on?

    my diet is ok i try to have 7 meals but some time only get 6

    my diet is

    7am meal1- 3 egg wihtes 1 whole egg scrambled 2 brown toast

    10am meal2- protine shake with carb powder + 1egg raw

    1pm meal3-2 tins of tuna with salad

    3.30-4pm meal4- protine shake no carbs no egg

    ? meal5-poast workout pro shake with carbsand egg

    7pm meal6- 2chicken brest with salad

    9pm meal7-pro shake no carbs no egg.


    any advice would be really apreciated if you cant tell im really new to this.
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    As for this being your frist cycle i would only take 1 tab of anadrol .
    1 sus a week is enough since you have anadrol,plus your taking deca too.You never had side -effect so start with that then if your okay then bump them up your next cycle.This is your first you will be more than fine.My first cycle of anadrol at on take was real canadian stuff in 1989,you don't know how powerful this is.As many years went on the side-effect just started to get worse.As for your diet you will need carbs you can't put on size with out carbs.Sweet potato's are great,oatmeal.a bit of fresh fruit for breakfast is why better that toast.Plus you should have a shake for breakfast as you don't have enough protein in that meal.But for every meal have yam,sweet potato,or brown rice 1/3 cup only,or potato.As for the fruit in the morning have 1/2 cupt to 1 cup only.Your days off should be rest only no cardio.On the days you work out try for 30-1 hours the day you work-out.Do you have high body fat?
    What is your type of body eco or endo?

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    first cycle, just stick to test only. You need to see how you react to test first. If you take all 3 and start getting sides, you wont know which one caused them. Drol can have some very harsh sides so definitely dont advise it on a first cycle

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    yea my body fat is high at the min with it just being xmas i pigged out a bit. will i still lose body fat even tho im jucing. im abit sensertive to carbs aswel so i wanted to keep them down but. i might change the brekfast to

    1 sachet off oatmeal with a protine shake would that be ok. do you know alot about dietting. coz i could really use some help with that plz.

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    but wont the test take awhill to kick in mybe

    1-4 test prop
    1-12 stust/test e

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    and any advice on the pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    first cycle, just stick to test only. You need to see how you react to test first. If you take all 3 and start getting sides, you wont know which one caused them. Drol can have some very harsh sides so definitely dont advise it on a first cycle
    i agree with the above, first cycle use Test only, also id pick a single ester like Test E at 500mg per week 2 shots a week Mon & thu for 12 weeks,

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    but wont it take time for the test to kick in. wat about

    1-4 dbol or test prop
    1-12 test e /or deca

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    for you first cycle i would stick with just test only i wouldnt add another compound, stick with test E, if its your first cycle you will respond great so dont worry about it, take nolva all the way through cycle and pct and start clomid 14 days after last shot of test E, 300mg day 1,100mg next 10 days and 50mg for the following 10 days, you should be fine with that..

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    what about my bf at the min will i still keep loseing bf an add mass aswell my bf is really high.

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    and what should i run the nolva at?

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    i wouldnt restrict your calories while your on a cycle, eat clean but plenty of it, if your not happy with your BF now diet down abit before you start your course, personaly if its really high i wouldnt start until you have reduced it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fino
    and what should i run the nolva at?
    some say dont take it unless you start to see the sides but personaly i always run it prevention is better than the cure, 20mg per day

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    do i bump it up to 30 wen i start my clomid. and were does clenb come in to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    i agree with the above, first cycle use Test only, also id pick a single ester like Test E at 500mg per week 2 shots a week Mon & thu for 12 weeks,
    I prefer tues and friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtralarg
    I prefer tues and friday
    i thought you liked wed and sat

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    i thought you liked wed and sat
    I like mon,tue.wed,thur,fri,sat and sun,,,,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtralarg
    I like mon,tue.wed,thur,fri,sat and sun,,,,,,,,,,
    me toooooooooooo

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    steroids are not going to burn fat for you. Diet and cardio do that. If you wanna see a good cutting diet, read this

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729

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    i know that they wont fat burn for me. i was just askin will the cardio stop or slow my growth wils on juice. will it do me any wrong or will i be wasting my time?

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    too much for a first cycle bro .... stick to test only for about 12 weeks ..... u wanna burn fat ??? ...... DIET AND CARDIO are the key along with a good training program

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    how much is there in each vial of deca .
    how much is there in each amp of stust or test e

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    Quote Originally Posted by fino
    how much is there in each vial of deca .
    how much is there in each amp of stust or test e

    if u cant answer those questions for urself than u shouldnt be using AAS

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    its just that i have been shown 2 differnt types.

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    and some seem to be bigger than oter some maybe fake how will i know.

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