How can i get the best use out of what i have?

**Baseballlifter** · 01-13-2006, 11:31 AM

I know that everyone says it is bad to do a just dbol or just winstrol cycle and that it is bad to stack both but right now all I have is
-100, 10 mg tabs of dbol
-100, 50 mg tabs of winstrol and
- 60, 20 mg tabs of nolva

I dont have any way of getting anything else in the next 4 months but i really want to get on a cycle quickly. I need suggestions on what I can do with this for the time being that will provide decent results. Thanks.

**mamias20918756** · 01-13-2006, 11:35 AM

why are u on such a hurry?
Test is the base of any cycle so u better wait in order to do things right, with such a cycle, the results won't be as u expect.
Also what's ur cycle history, ur goals and ur stats?

**stocky121** · 01-13-2006, 11:37 AM

eat train rest REPEAT

if you don't know how to cycle gear correctly your not ready to cycle

**mamias20918756** · 01-13-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

eat train rest REPEAT

if you don't know how to cycle gear correctly your not ready to cycle

agreed, u can't imagine how much u can achieve by training right, resting as much as possible and most of all eat

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 11:44 AM

we went over this already ....

**mamias20918756** · 01-13-2006, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

we went over this already ....

like a 100 times this week....

**Kurz** · 01-13-2006, 11:53 AM

Sell It!!!!!!!!

**stocky121** · 01-13-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kurz

Sell It!!!!!!!!

**Baseballlifter** · 01-13-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

we went over this already ....

But yall never said if i should just wait to use it. Would it be a complete waist if i went ahead and used it now?

**Kurz** · 01-13-2006, 11:55 AM

complete waste...........absolutely............sell it!

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 11:55 AM

dude how old are u ??? ... honestly .... what are ur stats ... how long have u been training .... do u know how to eat properly .... are u educated on the proper use of AAS ??? ......... DO NOT DO A DBOL & WINNY CYCLE

**stocky121** · 01-13-2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Baseballlifter

But yall never said if i should just wait to use it. Would it be a complete waist if i went ahead and used it now?

no it woulden't be why do it now and possible **** yourself up

is there any logic to this ??

BB is not something that happens overnight it takes a lot of year's of hard training and even harder dieting

**Baseballlifter** · 01-13-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

dude how old are u ??? ... honestly .... what are ur stats ... how long have u been training .... do u know how to eat properly .... are u educated on the proper use of AAS ??? ......... DO NOT DO A DBOL & WINNY CYCLE

Im not saying im going to do it. The reason I am writing was just to see if i should wait.

18, 190 lbs, 10% body fat
training for 2 years and i have a very good traing and nutritional base

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 12:04 PM

ur only 18, u still got plenty of time to grow naturally ... eat right and train hard and ull be able to pack on some mass .. do urself a favor and take the stuff and lock it in ur closet until ur ready

im assuming ur bought these pills with the intention of getting bigger for baseball .... what level do u play at and what position ?

**Baseballlifter** · 01-13-2006, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

ur only 18, u still got plenty of time to grow naturally ... eat right and train hard and ull be able to pack on some mass .. do urself a favor and take the stuff and lock it in ur closet until ur ready

im assuming ur bought these pills with the intention of getting bigger for baseball .... what level do u play at and what position ?

I play 2nd base and pitch a little bit
last year i had a little over 500 average but mostly all singles and some doubles. Just wanted to add some more power.

**TCEL300** · 01-13-2006, 12:09 PM

best way to use all the orals is not to use them..and without test?..u need test in there and those orals r gonna tear up ur liver

**SwoleCat** · 01-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Baseballlifter

I need suggestions on what I can do with this for the time being.

Place it on the shelf and watch it collect dust.

~SC~

**SwoleCat** · 01-13-2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Baseballlifter

Just wanted to add some more power.

Swing harder.

~SC~

**MiZongMaster** · 01-13-2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Swing harder.

~SC~

I think hes on to something there..

but to get stronger, just start doing compound workouts.. get your training down right, lift hard, and increase as much as possible, without overtraining or injuring yourself of course..

dbol is great for strength gain, but I dont know how much of that strength you will keep if doing a dbol only cycle.. and coming off will definately be counterproductive to what you want to achieve..

either train harder, or get some test!

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Baseballlifter

I play 2nd base and pitch a little bit
last year i had a little over 500 average but mostly all singles and some doubles. Just wanted to add some more power.

in college (what division) or just some rec league ???

u want more power .... it's all about bat speed ... train ur hands, forearms, tri's ... work on accelerating through the ball ... work on the mechanics of hitting ... more mass does not always equal more power when it comes to properly swinging a baseball bat

**vitor** · 01-13-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Baseballlifter

I know that everyone says it is bad to do a just dbol or just winstrol cycle and that it is bad to stack both but right now all I have is
-100, 10 mg tabs of dbol
-100, 50 mg tabs of winstrol and
- 60, 20 mg tabs of nolva

I dont have any way of getting anything else in the next 4 months but i really want to get on a cycle quickly. I need suggestions on what I can do with this for the time being that will provide decent results. Thanks.

If you are going to make a cycle of what you have, try this;
d-bol-50mgs ed 1-4
winstrol-100mgs mgs ed 4-8
nolva-20mgs ed 1-5
pct-Run the rest of the Nolva.
If you are close to your genetic limit, you shoud be able to put on 15 pounds, roughly speaking! Strenght will go trough the roof.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

If you are going to make a cycle of what you have, try this;
d-bol-50mgs ed 1-4
winstrol -100mgs mgs ed 4-8
nolva-20mgs ed 1-5
pct-Run the rest of the Nolva.
If you are close to your genetic limit, you shoud be able to put on 15 pounds, roughly speaking! Strenght will go trough the roof.

That is not the advice that he needs to be hearing

**Baseballlifter** · 01-13-2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

If you are going to make a cycle of what you have, try this;
d-bol-50mgs ed 1-4
winstrol -100mgs mgs ed 4-8
nolva-20mgs ed 1-5
pct-Run the rest of the Nolva.
If you are close to your genetic limit, you shoud be able to put on 15 pounds, roughly speaking! Strenght will go trough the roof.

Would that be way too much for a first time cycle?
Also would i be able to keep the gains?

**vitor** · 01-13-2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Baseballlifter

Would that be way too much for a first time cycle?
Also would i be able to keep the gains?

Keeping gains depends how fast you recover natrual test-production. Running winny in the end wilp help greatly with keeping d.bol gains. I recomend Tongat ali for pct too.

**vitor** · 01-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

That is not the advice that he needs to be hearing

I didnt give advice. I answered hes question, because no one else did. By the way, Its not a bad cycle. A steroid Novice, can make greate gains from that!

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 01:03 PM

thats a horrible cycle .... two orals .... two 17aa's ... no test ..... shall i proceed ??

the kid is only 18 ... he doesnt need to be juicing .... plus dbol isnt the way to go for baseball players

**T Bone** · 01-13-2006, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

thats a horrible cycle .... two orals .... two 17aa's ... no test ..... shall i proceed ??

the kid is only 18 ... he doesnt need to be juicing .... plus dbol isnt the way to go for baseball players

dbol isnt the way to go for baseball, especially if you are in season. I am a baseball coach and am on a Test E, EQ, and dbol cycle. When i hit fungos, i get huge back pumps just from swinging and I am not swinging hard. Imagine how but the pumps would get when you take countless continues swing during your batting practice.

**vitor** · 01-13-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

thats a horrible cycle .... two orals .... two 17aa's ... no test ..... shall i proceed ??

the kid is only 18 ... he doesnt need to be juicing .... plus dbol isnt the way to go for baseball players

I didnt see he post hes age anyware, but 18 is to young yes. Its no problem running to orals after eachother for 8 weeks though, unless someone has chronic liver-disease. There are people running orals for mounths at a time, with no problems. To say you cant run orals for 8-weeks is a joke!

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-13-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

To say you cant run orals for 8-weeks is a joke!

where did i ever say u couldnt run an oral for 8 weeks ..... what i have been saying, if u bothered to read the whole thread, is that a dbol /winny "cycle" is not a good idea ... and im sure the majority of the educated users on this board will agree with me

**neverenuff21** · 01-13-2006, 01:44 PM

you could get a tad bit from that cycle, true. but bro your 18! way too early.
your probably going to lose all your gains and some hair!

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 01-13-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

That is not the advice that he needs to be hearing

it is the advice he wants to hear. this isnt im your mommy and daddy board.

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 01-13-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

where did i ever say u couldnt run an oral for 8 weeks ..... what i have been saying, if u bothered to read the whole thread, is that a dbol/winny "cycle" is not a good idea ... and im sure the majority of the educated users on this board will agree with me

he knows its bad, its his choice.

**vitor** · 01-13-2006, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying

it is the advice he wants to hear. this isnt im your mommy and daddy board.

You were spot on! It gets annoying when no one answer the question thats being asked.

**magicstick2003** · 01-13-2006, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying

it is the advice he wants to hear. this isnt im your mommy and daddy board.

so we r helping him more by telling him what he wants to hear instead of what he needs to hear? so what ur saying is anytime someone comes on here with a cycle which is poorly planned and thought out we should just go ahead and tell them it's a great idea and to go for it??.... when in this case he came here asking for advice....
im going to agree with quite... it's a poor cycle, two orals is just plain stupid especially at the same time... and even if test was in there i wouldn;t say do them both at the same time... and there is no mention of any kinda of liver protect.. i think some more research and patience is in hand....

**SwoleCat** · 01-13-2006, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by magicstick2003

so we r helping him more by telling him what he wants to hear instead of what he needs to hear?

Yeah, no shit, that's some twisted backasswards kiddy shit.

Everyone is entitled to free speech, but when you see this kind of advice given (coupled w/the scenario to which it's applied which is even more important), it never fails to yield an emoticon such as this:

~SC~

**hardgainer12** · 01-16-2006, 02:00 AM

It might be easier to just answer the question and then explain ur reasoning not to do that cycle. Maybe he will learn a little more! But this stupid arguing is well...stupid! Obviously ur all very educated and have experience so tell him what u know and let him decide whether or not to screw himself up! If u guys told me how to run the cycle but told me it was dangerous i wouldnt do it! If he has common sense he wont do it! BASEBALLLIFTER, be smart and listen to the smart people! Ive learned a lot from these guys! Much respect to all that help!!