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    Sustanon 250 / Winny

    HEY GUYS:

    PLEASE GIVE SOME ADVICE. I AM PLANNING TO START A CYCLE OF SUSTANON 250 AND WOULD LIKE TO COMBINE IT WITH WINNY.
    WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF QTY TO USE AND FOR HOW LONG. WHEN SHOULD I START CLOMID?? WHAT ANTI-ESTROGEN YOU RECOMMEND AND WHEN TO USE IT.
    I AM 27. MY STATS ARE 5'11, 197 LBS., 10%BF AND HAVE 2 YEARS TRAINING.
    THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACKS

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    first easy on caps-- they dont bother me but some stress--lol
    for real
    do sus at least at 500mg per week for 8 to 10 weeks
    i've never combined winny with sus but i would think do winny at end while sus is tappering(self taper drug) out of system.--do 40 to 50 mg per day for 5 weeks
    dont start clomid till 3 weeks after last sus shot

    and for anti es--nolvadex (only if needed) or arimidex

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    thanks for your feedback, tapout. let me give up on the caps before you break my arm off!!

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    Week 1-10 sus 500mgs/week
    Week 8-14 winnie 50mgs/day
    start clomid 2 days after your done the winnie...you won't likely need any nolva or arimidex for those doses!

    clomid...300mgs 1st day, then 100mgs for 10 days, then 50 mgs for 10 days.

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    is ok using winny, 100 mg eod, instead 50 mg ed??
    which anti es is more effective, nolva or arimidex ?? if i need to use it, when should i use it and how much??

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    thanks mallet for your info!!

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    100mgs/eod is ok, but it's better to take everyday...even concentration in the blood! Are you injecting,taking tabs, or drinking your winnie?

    Arimidex is better by far, because it blocks the aromitase enzyme that converts test into estrogen...But I doubt you'll need either for those doses

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    If you had to take an anti during that cycle of 500mgs/sus a week, then .25mg would be sufficient IMO

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    thanks again, mallet. well, i get the injectable winny. but i have heard that it hurts when you inject winny, so that's why i was asking if it was ok to inject 100 mg eod, so my butt don't suffer.

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    Dont shoot the winny just drink it everyday and save your ass for better stuff!!

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    can i drink the injectable winny. does drinking injectable winny, will not cause any effect in the digestive syst. or whatever side eff.??

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    Yep you can drink it. Load up a syringe and take the needle off and shoot it down your throat. Chase it with some grape juice.

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    thanks tankass for your feedback. can i have the same results drinking injectable winny vs injecting it?? how long does it take to get into the body, when i drink it??

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    Originally posted by Mallet
    Week 1-10 sus 500mgs/week
    Week 8-14 winnie 50mgs/day
    start clomid 2 days after your done the winnie...you won't likely need any nolva or arimidex for those doses!

    clomid...300mgs 1st day, then 100mgs for 10 days, then 50 mgs for 10 days.
    Just a few tweaks in my opinion:

    Winny 8-13. (Sustanon metabolizes out of the system in 3 weeks, so by week 13 it is out of your systemand you can start the Clomid; besides 6 weeks of Winny is more than enough; longer stresses the liver more.)

    Have Nolvadex on hand just in case you have signs of gyno. NEVER start a cycle w/o Nolvadex on hand to treat symptoms of gyno. Hope for the best, plan for the worst! Nolvadex is insurance against growing breasts...
    Last edited by Ajax; 05-21-2002 at 03:44 AM.

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    all I know everywere I go I just keep getting ripped off.

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    not here. don't come on this board askin for someone to hook you up. that's not what we're about.

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    Originally posted by Mallet
    Week 1-10 sus 500mgs/week
    Week 8-14 winnie 50mgs/day
    start clomid 2 days after your done the winnie...you won't likely need any nolva or arimidex for those doses!

    clomid...300mgs 1st day, then 100mgs for 10 days, then 50 mgs for 10 days.
    Very nice mallet. I would keep the nolva on hand just in case. In my first cycle i only did 250mg of sust a week for 8 weeks and had gyno signs. This looks like a nice cycle though.

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    HEAT, like tapout says, you can run the winny about half way through your cycle of sustanon , shoot 500mg's of sus/week, then half way through, run 50mg/day or 100mg/eod of winny, you can also drink it, thats what im gonna do!

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    Is the sus/winnie cycle a good one as a first cycle?is it possible to shorten the cycle length to around 8 weeks rather than 14? Also would i need the clomid as a pct if this is my first cycle?
    thanks

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    sust is better with frequent injections to keep test levels even in the blood. I wouldn't recomend for first cycle, try Enan or Cyp, these esters can be injected bi-weekly. If all you have is sust than go with it I guess, is heat now fatboyinc?? Anyway, sust has to be injected more often, and if your not experienced with pins, you can run into trouble

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