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Found this on the web:
Can anyone validate this, thus putting enthante and acetate in the clear? How does tren's hepatoxictiy compare to that of the 17aa's?Quote:
I have read that liver and kidney toxicity has been linked to the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester and was previously thought to be a result of the trenbolone itself. I don't know how true this is --the bulk of this info is in french and i can not translate it.
all i know is that its heavy on the kidneys i would like the info on this as i like others love tren!!!
I copied the quote from the meso-rx forums: http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showt...oto=nextnewest
Doesnt seem to give a link to any french studies tho. Gonna keep searching google, as I know the French were the ones to come out with Parabolan.
yeah just had a peek myself it is a shame there is no link!!!:frown:
i ran 17wks of tren around 100mg ED .. w/ 1g MilkThistle.. had liver valued checked at end
and it was fine.. this was 1.5weeks after last trenAshot
Yeah, I'm going to see myself on my next cycle by looking at the before/during/after bloodwork. Just going to be a test prop & tren a cycle. Decided to drop the dbol to throw out that variable that would skew the bloodwork results.Quote:
Originally Posted by taiboxa
I wont start a new thread on exactly on the same Question...
So Bumb for more experiences on tren vs 17aa's and liver values..Quote:
How does tren's hepatoxictiy compare to that of the 17aa's?
On my own, I have gotten liver values checked on oxy and dbol with test+deca and about 1-2 weeks after cessation, and oxy(100-150mg) they are about 130-150 and with dbol(60mg) they are about 80 normal is 10-60 where I come from..
But have never gotten it checked on tren and liver values check all the time is not an options here, and my doctor is very nice..
tren and liver problems are not a worry to me
now tren and kidneys NWO UR SKARING ME
The kidney toxicity has not yet been proven.
zactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by roidattack
How can tren be toxic on the liver? You're injecting it.
ya..i love tren..more info please, thats new to me!!! tri tren is my ish!
so the liver and kidney are the same organ?! :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by big k.l.g
oh blast you anatomy class!
blood flow. all toxics are taken to liver from blood to filter....spleen helps also...but when u lose liver or spleen...1 works WAY more harder then it needs and can lead to lotsa probs
So I am no Albert Einstein ( obviously my spelling sux ) but beyond the toxins it is the fact you are more so in the bathroom a whole heck of alot more when doing tren that your liver and or kidney may suffer in the fact they work a lil harder. So keep enough calories and fluids to combat this effect and you should be just fine.
(* Some people have suffered liver problems but they also were alcholol consumers as well so the evidence of tren alone is sketchy *)