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    6ft7in 280 need help!!!!

    hey im new to the board just seeing if this cycle would be good to gain strength and lean musle this is going to be my first full cycle
    im 6ft7 280 high body fat semi solid
    d-bol 40mg ed 1-4
    deca 400mg 1-11
    test e 600mg 1-12
    winny 50mg ed 7-12
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    if any body can help it would be appreciated thanx

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    I think test only for 10/12 weeks at 500mg would be just fine. You seem to already have some good size to you. Whats ur bf?

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    im not sure what my bf is pretty high i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    I think test only for 10/12 weeks at 500mg would be just fine. You seem to already have some good size to you. Whats ur bf?
    am with chest on this, just stick with test only at 500mg for 12 weeks, if its your first cycle you wont need any other compounds, make sure your diet/training are up to it and you will see gains...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    am with chest on this, just stick with test only at 500mg for 12 weeks, if its your first cycle you wont need any other compounds, make sure your diet/training are up to it and you will see gains...
    Agreed.

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    the test alone will give me the strength and solid mass?

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    also how about a boost with the dbol for the first 4-5 weeks for a jumpstart so i can feel and see a difference until the test kicks in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill_will
    also how about a boost with the dbol for the first 4-5 weeks for a jumpstart so i can feel and see a difference until the test kicks in?
    This is an idea, but, a better idea for a second cycle.

    Test alone will work wonders with the correct diet.

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    If it were me I would get some test prop if you can. Use it the first 4 weeks with cyp or enth. It will give you a kick very fast instead of using a different compound. You can mix both in the same shot.You need to shoot EOD though.

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    does the the test prop work like d-bol better or worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill_will
    does the the test prop work like d-bol better or worse?

    Why do you want more steroids in your body if not needed?
    You will grow as much as you can in such a short amount of time with test alone.

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    dont use winstrol for anything but a straight cutting cycle.. deca and winstrol are a bad combo. first cycle at your size if your over 23 or so 500-750mg test only cycle 12 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tranzit
    dont use winstrol for anything but a straight cutting cycle.. deca and winstrol are a bad combo. first cycle at your size if your over 23 or so 500-750mg test only cycle 12 weeks


    Whats wrong with deca and winstrol tranzit?
    I had a buddy of mine do deca for 9 weeks along with winstrol tabs for 5 and he grew like a weed.

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    Deca only cycle huh..... i wont even go into this, just say dont do it...
    If you wanna grow Go with test E 500 a week(maybe alittle more) , this will take a few weeks to feel and even see, so if u want, you could go with d-bol for 4 weeks to jumpstart, but isnt really needed, youll lose most of what you see from the dbol , most of ur solid gains r gonna come from your TEST, so id say save the money n stick with test only, im not sure about dosage for a guy your size, but im pretty sure 500 a week should be good. This beign said id take a month to get your bodyfat inchest, strip taht fat off, then go with the juice, youll have a MUCH better looking final product

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Whats wrong with deca and winstrol tranzit?
    I had a buddy of mine do deca for 9 weeks along with winstrol tabs for 5 and he grew like a weed.
    For me Deca causes bloat, while winstrol can be used to control some bloat i have had no good gains from winstrol and deca, i am a firm beliver that winstrol should be left to leaning/strength cycles only. And should never be used with Dbol /Drol/Deca/Sustanon /Omnadren and a few others.

    but again this is just my opinion. Some people have diffrent reactions. I use Winstrol just for cutting.

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    thanx alot guys im gonna stick to the test 600mg and maybe the d-bol not sure yet

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