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    Talking Ok Here It Is...

    Final decision on my cycle

    AAS
    Weeks 1-14 Prop 100mg ED
    Weeks 1-12 Tren 50mg ED
    Weeks 1-12 Eq 80mg ED
    Weeks 7-14 Var 50mg ED

    Ancillaries
    Weeks 1-14 Proviron 50mg ED
    Weeks 1-14 B6 200mg ED

    PCT
    Weeks 15-17 Nolvadex 20mg ED
    Weeks 15-17 Clomid 100mg ED

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    You need to go to week 15 on Prop to have the PCT timing match up.EQ takes 3 weeks to clear

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    also run the var 3 days past the prop then start pct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You need to go to week 15 on Prop to have the PCT timing match up.EQ takes 3 weeks to clear

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    2 weeks of PCT after running Tren is not sufficient IMHO. Extend it to 4-5 weeks.

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    I agree with what was all said above, especially about PCT. I always prefer to run PCT for at least 30 days. My last run after 30 days I still wasn't "back to normal" and I extended it another 2 weeks. Was fine after that.........

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    Dont really see the point of taking the EQ ED, it has such a long half life, once a week is fine, twice a week if you want to be fussy but IMO their would be no added benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    Dont really see the point of taking the EQ ED, it has such a long half life, once a week is fine, twice a week if you want to be fussy but IMO their would be no added benefit.


    Yea I know what you're saying but if he's already doing ED injections with the Prop and Tren you may as well combine the EQ in there. Depending on what kind of gear Ant is using he will probably be injecting 2-2.5cc's ED. I'd keep the EQ every day, would only benefit by keeping levels stable over the entire course of the cycle.

    If it was a Test E and EQ cycle then I would go ahead and inject EOD to E3D depending on the cycle. But considering what he is running I'd keep it the way he listed it........

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    That Looks mean brother...good luck!!!

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    Thanks guys

    Will extent the Prop an extra week
    And end Var 3 days after
    PCT was weeks 15-17 inclusive - which equals 3 weeks - i'll up it to 5 weeks
    Eq is ED to combine shots and to keep amount of fluid per injection to a minimum - 1.9ml per day

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant_8u
    Thanks guys

    Will extent the Prop an extra week
    And end Var 3 days after
    PCT was weeks 15-17 inclusive - which equals 3 weeks - i'll up it to 5 weeks
    Eq is ED to combine shots and to keep amount of fluid per injection to a minimum - 1.9ml per day



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    why not run nolva throughout your entire cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexta
    why not run nolva throughout your entire cycle?
    The possible risk of hindering gains. It's usually not run until PCT, or if estrogen-related side effects show up during cycle.

    Not a BAD idea to be safe, but I'm currently on 600mg/week of both EQ & Enan and I've put on 25lbs in 6 weeks with only 5 1/2mm-sized acne bumps to date (all of which disappeared with overnight ointment)

    Take a look for yourself... THE single most detailed cycle log on the boards:

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    nice, this is going to be my next cycle as well, maybe not as long let us know how it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You need to go to week 15 on Prop to have the PCT timing match up.EQ takes 3 weeks to clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    also run the var 3 days past the prop then start pct!
    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    2 weeks of PCT after running Tren is not sufficient IMHO. Extend it to 4-5 weeks.
    Follow these suggestions and you will have yourself one hell of a cutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexta
    why not run nolva throughout your entire cycle?
    Nolvadex is a SERM - it only blocks estrogen binding to the receptors
    It doesn't stop your AAS from aromatising

    Proviron is an AI - this does stop your AAS from aromatising

    Therefore Proviron is preferred to Nolvadex

    I would use Letro during my cycle but i'm making everything myself this time

    I can't make Letro into caps due to the low dosages used and i don't want to suspend it - so i'm going for Proviron

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant_8u
    Nolvadex is a SERM - it only blocks estrogen binding to the receptors
    It doesn't stop your AAS from aromatising

    Proviron is an AI - this does stop your AAS from aromatising

    Therefore Proviron is preferred to Nolvadex

    I would use Letro during my cycle but i'm making everything myself this time

    I can't make Letro into caps due to the low dosages used and i don't want to suspend it - so i'm going for Proviron
    A good choice, I think.

    Proviron will increase your sex drive, unlike other AI's. It has a high binding affinity to SHBG, freeing more available testosterone . Also, it will prevent gyno issues and water retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    A good choice, I think.

    Proviron will increase your sex drive, unlike other AI's. It has a high binding affinity to SHBG, freeing more available testosterone. Also, it will prevent gyno issues and water retention.
    Thankyou sir

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