First Cycle, comments/suggestions?

**BlueAndromeda73** · 01-15-2006, 08:11 PM

I was planning on running my first cycle coming up in about a month,

Weeks 1-15 Test E @500 mg/week

Weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 30mg/day
Clomid @ 75mg/day

Weeks 17-18
Nolva @ 20mg/day
Clomid @ 50mg/day

I will have my Pct on hand so if needed I can have the Nolva in case of Gyno flare.

Stats:
Age: 22
Weight: ~220
Bench: 370-380
Squat: 415
Lifting Experience: 2 years learnin/ 4 years serious (6 total years)
Diet:3-4,000 Calories about 250 grams protein a day mostly from chicken, carbs mainly form brown rice and yams.

Any suggestions or comments? Does it sound like I'm ready for this cycle or should I hold off awhile?

**powerliftmike** · 01-15-2006, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73

I was planning on running my first cycle coming up in about a month,

Weeks 1-15 Test E @500 mg/week

Weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 30mg/day
Clomid @ 75mg/day

Weeks 17-18
Nolva @ 20mg/day
Clomid @ 50mg/day

I will have my Pct on hand so if needed I can have the Nolva in case of Gyno flare.

Stats:
Age: 22
Weight: ~220
Bench: 370-380
Squat: 415
Lifting Experience: 2 years learnin/ 4 years serious (6 total years)
Diet:3-4,000 Calories about 250 grams protein a day mostly from chicken, carbs mainly form brown rice and yams.

Any suggestions or comments? Does it sound like I'm ready for this cycle or should I hold off awhile?

That would work. You prolly should add some protein shakes just to flood yourself with aminos during the cycle. BTW nice benching bro

**BlueAndromeda73** · 01-15-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

That would work. You prolly should add some protein shakes just to flood yourself with aminos during the cycle. BTW nice benching bro

Ok thanks man, I have about 3 weeks- month till I start so I will get some more protein I like Optimums Gold Standard so I think I will stick to that.

**BlueAndromeda73** · 01-15-2006, 10:24 PM

Anyone else have any suggestions?

**goalseeker** · 01-16-2006, 12:38 AM

I kickstarted my first one with some dbol .. you could throw that in there if you wanted....give you a bit of a quick boost...

**BlueAndromeda73** · 01-16-2006, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

I kickstarted my first one with some dbol.. you could throw that in there if you wanted....give you a bit of a quick boost...

Would 30/mg ED for the first 4 weeks be enough?

**IronAdonis** · 01-16-2006, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73

I was planning on running my first cycle coming up in about a month,

Weeks 1-15 Test E @500 mg/week

Weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 30mg/day
Clomid @ 75mg/day

Weeks 17-18
Nolva @ 20mg/day
Clomid @ 50mg/day

I will have my Pct on hand so if needed I can have the Nolva in case of Gyno flare.

Stats:
Age: 22
Weight: ~220
Bench: 370-380
Squat: 415
Lifting Experience: 2 years learnin/ 4 years serious (6 total years)
Diet:3-4,000 Calories about 250 grams protein a day mostly from chicken, carbs mainly form brown rice and yams.

Any suggestions or comments? Does it sound like I'm ready for this cycle or should I hold off awhile?

Weeks 1-15
Test E @500 mg/week
Nolva 20mg/day

Weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 10mg/day

Weeks 17-18
Nolva @ 10mg/day
Clomid @ 300mg for the first day
100mg/day for the following six days
50mg/day for the last week

Dont run clomid until 2 weeks after the last injection of test-e.

**Massacre** · 01-16-2006, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by IronAdonis

Weeks 1-15
Test E @500 mg/week
Nolva 20mg/day

Weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 10mg/day

Weeks 17-18
Nolva @ 10mg/day
Clomid @ 300mg for the first day
100mg/day for the following six days
50mg/day for the last week

Dont run clomid until 2 weeks after the last injection of test-e.

agreed.

**goalseeker** · 01-16-2006, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73

Would 30/mg ED for the first 4 weeks be enough?

for a first cycle, that would be fine...

**Swifto** · 01-16-2006, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

for a first cycle, that would be fine...

Though, not ideal.

Adding an oral, such as, Dbol /Tbol/Winny would be better for a second cycle.

**goalseeker** · 01-16-2006, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Though, not ideal.

Adding an oral, such as, Dbol/Tbol/Winny would be better for a second cycle.

I suppose your right....It depends on ones goals..., although adding a small dose like that should be fine.. On My first four weeks I ran 40/ed dbol , then drol 100/ed for the last 4.. And that was my first cycle...But again, depends on each individual...

**Smiley619** · 01-16-2006, 05:25 PM

looks good but, why a 15 weeker for the first run???

**BlueAndromeda73** · 01-16-2006, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the help guys I've decided to use your reccomendations for PCT Iron so thanks, and also to drop the D-bol till a later cycle, just sticken with Test E the first time to see how I react. Also I've heard that adding Nolva in a cycle can deminish results but I have also heard that it doesn't just wondering what the consensus on that was, just want all the info before, thanks guys.

**Smiley619** · 01-16-2006, 08:32 PM

i dont know about the nolva, but what i do know is that i would rather my gains be hindered then getting gyno.

**goalseeker** · 01-16-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Smiley619

i dont know about the nolva, but what i do know is that i would rather my gains be hindered then getting gyno.

there was a thread a week or so ago and the guy posted a pic of his gyno. I went and threw up after that..... run the nolva

**BlueAndromeda73** · 01-17-2006, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

there was a thread a week or so ago and the guy posted a pic of his gyno. I went and threw up after that..... run the nolva

You got me convinced, thanks again guys for the help.

**PrairieDawg** · 01-17-2006, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73

I was planning on running my first cycle coming up in about a month,

Weeks 1-15 Test E @500 mg/week

Weeks 16-17
Nolva @ 30mg/day
Clomid @ 75mg/day

Weeks 17-18
Nolva @ 20mg/day
Clomid @ 50mg/day

I will have my Pct on hand so if needed I can have the Nolva in case of Gyno flare.

Stats:
Age: 22
Weight: ~220
Bench: 370-380
Squat: 415
Lifting Experience: 2 years learnin/ 4 years serious (6 total years)
Diet:3-4,000 Calories about 250 grams protein a day mostly from chicken, carbs mainly form brown rice and yams.

Any suggestions or comments? Does it sound like I'm ready for this cycle or should I hold off awhile?

Here was my first cycle;

Weeks 1-4: Dbol 25mg/day
Weeks 1-10: Test E 500mg/week
research on nolva, how much you should be taking and what you should up it to if symptoms arise

PCT (2 weeks after last injection)
Clomid - 300 mg Day 1
100 mg day 2-11
50 mg day 12-21
Nolvadex - 25 mg ed

IMO you'll need to increase your cals and protein intake during and after your cycle. protein should be around 330 grams/day or more at your weight.