Any one seen these sides?

**velvetlion** · 01-15-2006, 11:52 PM

I was just recalling a experience that a guy I know had with tren . He was injecting into his delts and his entire arms on both sides from his shoulder to his elbows turned black and blue. I had never seen this before, he asked me what to do and I told him to go to the doctor because it seemed pretty serious. He never went and it eventually subsided. I was just wondering if anyone else here had seen anything like that before? Like I said, it was bruising, not like the swelling or warm, red irritation that you might get from an irritated injection or infection.

**velvetlion** · 01-16-2006, 07:03 AM

bump.

**lzicc** · 01-16-2006, 08:01 AM

Was this the first time he shot delts?

**velvetlion** · 01-16-2006, 04:18 PM

Yes it was.

**Wildcatbadass** · 01-16-2006, 04:21 PM

bro what prolly happened was he hit a vein or something and the blood drained down hit arm under his skin. Thats about the only thing i can think of since it is his first delt shot.
-wild

**velvetlion** · 01-16-2006, 04:37 PM

That is what I thought may have happended to, but it happened to both arms. And when I say black and blue, I mean his arms looked like one complete bruise. I just can't imagine that he hit a vein in both delts. It was definitely something that I have never seen before and never even heard of.

**lzicc** · 01-16-2006, 05:27 PM

First time I hit delts, my arm felt black and blue. I couldn't see it but felt it. Now when I shoot delts, if I lift my are up about 10 minutes after shooting, my shoulder right below where I shot, hurts. Feels fine if I don't lift it or touch it. Really weird.

**powerliftmike** · 01-16-2006, 05:33 PM

I've never heard of or experienced contusions like you described from any shots. Swelling, redness, and infections yes, but not black and blue. Maybe he jabbed a large pin in really fast..?

**velvetlion** · 01-16-2006, 05:52 PM

He was using 23g. 1.5 inch pins, but was only going in an inch.

**lzicc** · 01-16-2006, 06:44 PM

That would work. I use 1", 25 guage for delts and go in 90% of the way.

I just got done doing a delt shot about 2 hours ago. It feels ok. A little sore, but not real bad.

**scotttiger54** · 01-16-2006, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Wildcatbadass

bro what prolly happened was he hit a vein or something and the blood drained down hit arm under his skin. Thats about the only thing i can think of since it is his first delt shot.
-wild

**james55555** · 01-16-2006, 07:09 PM

I had a similar experience only I was shooting in my gluts and after my work outs both arms would turn black and blue. I think it is from a broken blood vessel no big deal.

**AnabolicAndre** · 01-16-2006, 07:16 PM

Did this happen with any other body part? or did he discontinue aafter these shots... if so it could have been poor quality gear and possibly limited the flow of muscle enough o where it bruised i dont know man...

**velvetlion** · 01-16-2006, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre

Did this happen with any other body part? or did he discontinue aafter these shots... if so it could have been poor quality gear and possibly limited the flow of muscle enough o where it bruised i dont know man...

He did discontinue after use, but I don't think it was the gear. There were a few others using from the same batch of tren and no one else had any problems.