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    Testosterone Score? How's it work?

    I've had my Test levels checked before and they said they were low. I just had them done again a couple months ago and docs said that I was normal again.

    I decided to dig up my lab tests from last time and this is what I saw:

    13.3 nmol/L

    *My friend tells me that's around 240 ng/dl*

    Anyway, it seems this is still low, correct? Docs said it was fine but everything I'm reading indicates that as low.

    A couple years back I did a Deca only cycle with no PCT whatsoever... yes, stupid I know! Is it possible I am still screwed up from that?

    What are some things I can do to bring that score up?

    thanks!

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    I've read normal levels should be 435 - 700 ng/dl

    Tribulus helps some - so does ZMA or plain old Zinc.
    I had heard about a product called Primal Test, but have no concrete info on it. Maybe Google it and see what you get.

    Of course, loosing weight if overweight - cutting down on alcohol if you drink and getting enough rest are factors to consider as well.
    Good Luck fight prof

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    solid advice right there

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    Thanks... I am in good shape and supplement with Zinc and such. I am doing a saliva collection now to check cortisol/dhea levels today, perhaps that will shed some light.

    I sleep 9 hours a night and don't drink at all. My BF is at 9.5%.
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    do u have any other symptoms that relate to low test? IMO that number is low eventhough it hits the normal range (depending on the lab.. ours have 10-50 nmol/L)..

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    Ya, the reason I decided to check it out was feelings of depression, low libido as well... I'm only 26 years old. Not as aggressive as I used to be, and more emotional it seems. General feelings of "burnt out" even if I take a week off or something.

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    You should see an endocrinologist who can order a battery of tests to see what's really going on with your HPTA. If they're savvy, there's a lot they can do to help you out without putting you on HRT for the rest of your life.

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    thx Maetenloch, I'll check around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fight_prof
    I've had my Test levels checked before and they said they were low. I just had them done again a couple months ago and docs said that I was normal again.

    I decided to dig up my lab tests from last time and this is what I saw:

    13.3 nmol/L

    *My friend tells me that's around 240 ng/dl*

    Anyway, it seems this is still low, correct? Docs said it was fine but everything I'm reading indicates that as low.

    A couple years back I did a Deca only cycle with no PCT whatsoever... yes, stupid I know! Is it possible I am still screwed up from that?

    What are some things I can do to bring that score up?

    thanks!

    FP
    i also just got a hormone check and it says values in normal range are between 3-24 nmol/L so you arent really as bad off as you think thats right in middle range.

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    hmmm cool... what they think is it's more my cortisol levels that have me feeling the way I do, and that make me collect fat the way I do despite having overall low BF. I just sent off a 4 Panel Saliva cortisol/DHEA test, so that should shed some light. I wouldn't doubt my cort levels are off the charts.

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    that sounds like u r overtraining.. low test / high cholesterol are associated with that.. Fedor rules BTW..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fight_prof
    Ya, the reason I decided to check it out was feelings of depression, low libido as well... I'm only 26 years old. Not as aggressive as I used to be, and more emotional it seems. General feelings of "burnt out" even if I take a week off or something.
    wow.. holy that was me at 24 yrs.. the docs will tell you it's a normal coarse of development...

    i say bull shit.. do what you need to stay as masculine as you can..

    test in a hrt is a great thing..
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    Spywizard... YA man that's what they said to me, that it's normal by my age... which is bullshit, I know guys 35 that are way more horny than me, lol.....

    In all seriousness, I thought it was overtraining, and probably part of it was... but I have taken 10 days fully off now and still feel unmotivated and such... and I also monitor my resting HR in the morn everyday, and morning weight, and I was at a constant 47 BPM or so.

    Hopefully this saliva test leads to something we can resolve.

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