my competition cycle *critique*

[Massacre]

ERASED -

i'm on the my second week right now. i also started clean bulking instead of a full blown bulk as i was doing before. you know the kind? "all you can eat" diet. lol

either way, i started at 247lbs, doing cardio from now til week sixteen 4x a week at 30min in the am then i'll change it up to 5x 45 min or so.

stats as of right now:
6ft
238lbs
14% bf (i beleive)

[nate3422]

pretty long cycle

[Massacre]

pretty long cycle

pretty big show...

MODS, VETS, ect?

[AnabolicAndre]

Wow you're gonna run masteron for 12 weeks? isn't that kinda long..

good luck man keep us informed on your progress

[Massacre]

Wow you're gonna run masteron for 12 weeks? isn't that kinda long..

good luck man keep us informed on your progress

debating either that or winny for the last 6 weeks. that's why i posted this so i can get a critique.

[SPIKE]

Well since you're on your second week I'll start from here. No need implementing what I thought should have started at week 1.

I'd actually like to know the exact date of the show. No need to tell me what show I'm just looking for a time frame so we can get you in as dry as possible.

20 weeks is a long time but obviously thats why you threw in the Masteron at week 11 to keep gaining. Depending on that date I might cut the cycle short and start the Masteron at week 12-18. I dont want to go on anymore b/c it's all going to revolve around that date.

[Massacre]

Well since you're on your second week I'll start from here. No need implementing what I thought should have started at week 1.

I'd actually like to know the exact date of the show. No need to tell me what show I'm just looking for a time frame so we can get you in as dry as possible.

20 weeks is a long time but obviously thats why you threw in the Masteron at week 11 to keep gaining. Depending on that date I might cut the cycle short and start the Masteron at week 12-18. I dont want to go on anymore b/c it's all going to revolve around that date.

June 3rd.

[Massacre]

Jay, before you begin I would also like to say I want to throw in ECY or ECA and T3 somewhere in there.

This is my first show so I'm not too sure how the heck I'm gonna add those babies in there.

[Massacre]

i also forgot to add that i started slin today.

[SPIKE]

June 3rd.

That might just be cutting it close with the test. I'd like to see you pull your oils out 3-4 weeks before the show. Granted you're running the Nolvadex but I dont want to see you holding any water whatsoever when you're up there. Sure your diuretic will take care of the last drop but you want to be as dry as possible up there.

If you're as meticulous as I am then you'll be able to answer this question. When you take that last shot of Test in week 20, how long is that before June 3rd? I have a rough estimate but when it comes to being on stage you have to get anal like this.

I really wish you posted this a week before you started. My recommendations would have listed already.

[Massacre]

That might just be cutting it close with the test. I'd like to see you pull your oils out 3-4 weeks before the show. Granted you're running the Nolvadex but I dont want to see you holding any water whatsoever when you're up there. Sure your diuretic will take care of the last drop but you want to be as dry as possible up there.

If you're as meticulous as I am then you'll be able to answer this question. When you take that last shot of Test in week 20, how long is that before June 3rd? I have a rough estimate but when it comes to being on stage you have to get anal like this.

I really wish you posted this a week before you started. My recommendations would have listed already.

2 weeks before I beleive. Either way, changes can be done as I have only been on for two weeks.

[SPIKE]

This is what I would do according to what you have listed.

1-16 Enanthate 800mgs week
16-18 Prop 100mgs ED
1-10 Tren A 600 mg/ week
1-10 T3 25mcg ED
12-18 Masteron 400 mg/ week
14-18 T3 25mcg ED

1-20 Nolvadex 20 mg


I want to move the Tren towards the end so you can take it ED with the prop but you already started it. That's why I mentioned that I would have changed a few things if this were listed a couple of weeks ago.

Since Tren lowers your natty thyroid you can take 25mcg ED throughout that use then take a month off and run it for another 4 weeks.

By cutting the cycle short 2 weeks you can cut out those oils for a full month prior to showtime..........

[Massacre]

This is what I would do according to what you have listed.

1-16 Enanthate 800mgs week
16-18 Prop 100mgs ED
1-10 Tren A 600 mg/ week
1-10 T3 25mcg ED
12-18 Masteron 400 mg/ week
14-18 T3 25mcg ED

1-20 Nolvadex 20 mg


I want to move the Tren towards the end so you can take it ED with the prop but you already started it. That's why I mentioned that I would have changed a few things if this were listed a couple of weeks ago.

Since Tren lowers your natty thyroid you can take 25mcg ED throughout that use then take a month off and run it for another 4 weeks.

By cutting the cycle short 2 weeks you can cut out those oils for a full month prior to showtime..........

wow, that is impressive. it looks real sweet.

[BajanBastard]

I like Jay's cycle. I would run the T3 1-2 wks past the tren to protect against tren metabolites. Are you progentin sensitive? I don't like the idea of the nolva with that tren.

[Massacre]

I like Jay's cycle. I would run the T3 1-2 wks past the tren to protect against tren metabolites. Are you progentin sensitive? I don't like the idea of the nolva with that tren.

actually i am progesterone prone.

[BajanBastard]

actually i am progesterone prone.

Well in that case replace the nolva with letro.

[Massacre]

Well in that case replace the nolva with letro.

I'm actually glad you said that cause I have so much letro here. I didn't even know what to do with it anymore. Ideal dosage???

[BajanBastard]

I'm actually glad you said that cause I have so much letro here. I didn't even know what to do with it anymore. Ideal dosage???

What dosage worked for you the best? .5mg eod is a good start. The biggest setback about letro is ideally you should start it 2-4 wks before the cycle.

[Massacre]

What dosage worked for you the best? .5mg eod is a good start. The biggest setback about letro is ideally you should start it 2-4 wks before the cycle.

LOL!

Well, I'll start from tomarrow and see what happens.

[rodge]

as big klg said def add letro in there.what kind of diuretics are you planning on using?-rodge

[SPIKE]

The biggest setback about letro is ideally you should start it 2-4 wks before the cycle.

Ahhhhhhhhh just another reason to have started this thread a week or 2 before you started this cycle. Either way you're going to do great!!! Make sure you keep us updated on your competition cycle. I actually know of a show on June 3rd not too far from where I live .


After big K.I.g and Rodge comment there wont be any more room for improvement You're ready to rock brotha.........

[Massacre]

as big klg said def add letro in there.what kind of diuretics are you planning on using?-rodge

Not sure. What do you suggest? I'm all new at this and my boy that was supposed to prepare me is missing in action since he's in love now. So I'm all alone so I came here.

[SPIKE]

Not sure. What do you suggest? I'm all new at this and my boy that was supposed to prepare me is missing in action since he's in love now. So I'm all alone so I came here.

Diuretics are HUUUUUUUUUUUGE right before comp. Tell your boy he can stay on that love couch and we'll hook you up. Rodge has competed and still does so he will be better able to answer your question on Diuretics. I have trained and still do train people that compete. Buuuuuuuuuut I prefer first hand personal experience so lets wait on Mr. IGF Forum MOD to spew his knowledge

[rodge]

Not sure. What do you suggest? I'm all new at this and my boy that was supposed to prepare me is missing in action since he's in love now. So I'm all alone so I came here.

i always use aldactone at 50mg starting 3 days before the show.

-rodge

[SPIKE]

i always use aldactone at 50mg starting 3 days before the show.

-rodge

Great recommendation as this is what I've used in the past!!!!

[Smak]

I'm actually glad you said that cause I have so much letro here. I didn't even know what to do with it anymore. Ideal dosage???

I use letro at .5 EOD. I'm not gyno prone though.

You might want to run it ED between .5 and 1.25mg.

It's pretty powerful stuff and I started it the first day of my cycle. As k.l.g was saying it's good to start it 2 weeks before your cycle.

Hope this helps cuz.

[Massacre]

ED? you're crazy. I'll forget I have a penis again.

[Smak]

ED? you're crazy. I'll forget I have a penis again.

.25mg ed would also work without losing your libido.

[niXon)(]

This is what I would do according to what you have listed.

1-16 Enanthate 800mgs week
16-18 Prop 100mgs ED
1-10 Tren A 600 mg/ week
1-10 T3 25mcg ED
12-18 Masteron 400 mg/ week
14-18 T3 25mcg ED

1-20 Nolvadex 20 mg

Nice looking cycle there. why masteron 12-18?

[Massacre]

Nice looking cycle there. why masteron 12-18?

To slice and dice baby!

[SPIKE]

Nice looking cycle there. why masteron 12-18?

Why not? It will decrease SHBG levels and free up some test to keep gaining. Not to mention make Massacre look like he's carved out of stone as long as diet is on point.....

[Massacre]

Why not? It will decrease SHBG levels and free up some test to keep gaining. Not to mention make Massacre look like he's carved out of stone as long as diet is on point.....

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SC HERE I COME!!!! LOL

[gabe_sol]

Sounds Like A Good Cycle

[BajanBastard]

ED? you're crazy. I'll forget I have a penis again.

Not like you ever had one j/k.

Remember to make/post a log buddy.

[SPIKE]

Not like you ever had one j/k.

Awwwwwww that was mean.........

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SC HERE I COME!!!! LOL

Those are some big words there brotha. I hope SC doesn't see this

[Massacre]

Damn, Big KLG! You're huge in your avatar. LOL Sure thing, I'll start a log tonight. I have a tren shot tonight. WOOHOO!

Jayhova, he knows I'm the new breed coming up. He's my latin brotha! He can't hate!

[SPIKE]

Jayhova, he knows I'm the new breed coming up. He's my latin brotha! He can't hate!

Yea haters can get off at the nearest exit. No room for that and we all know that BIG is not one at all. Smart MoFo he is

[BajanBastard]

Damn, Big KLG! You're huge in your avatar. LOL Sure thing, I'll start a log tonight. I have a tren shot tonight. WOOHOO!

Jayhova, he knows I'm the new breed coming up. He's my latin brotha! He can't hate!

That's real muscle there mudderfacker!

Best of luck on the cycle and comp. I'll be following this one closely.

[niXon)(]

Why not? It will decrease SHBG levels and free up some test to keep gaining. Not to mention make Massacre look like he's carved out of stone as long as diet is on point.....

it wasn't a sarcastic Q. what does in bold mean?

[SPIKE]

it wasn't a sarcastic Q. what does in bold mean?

Oh dude I didnt take it that way at all. Didn't mean to come off like that if I did.

When on Test for a prolonged amount of time SHBG levels rise locking up a lot of usable test. When that happens most of the time people stop gaining, causing them to up the dose and that wont do a dam thing. By introducing a DHT derivative such as Masteron , that will decrease levels therefore freeing up usable test and hopefully keeping gains coming......