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    Smile Safest Cycle Of All!!!

    Hi there, I was looking to make my 3rd cycle the Safest Cycle of All!!!
    I have done lots of research, and I believe that a good cycle would be:

    Andropen 275, Trinabol 150, and Clomid for PCT.

    Could I get some advice on how much I should take per week, if I should do this cycle, and would it be as effective as Cyp and Deca ?

    Also, should I do more than Clomid for PCT, like Nolva maybe?

    For your info: My last 2 cycles were Cyp, Deca and Clomid for PCT.

    I had a lot of acne, oily skin, and water retention from those cycle... Im trying to do a cycle with less Aromitization and Water Retension.

    But I still want the massive gains that I got from my last two cycles.

    Please help?

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    you will get the "massive" gains from heavy angrogens like test and such...heavy androgens come with heavy side effects...fine tune your diet and training and a less androgenic cycle could yield some good effects on the scale
    test and deca is just a mass building cycle so dont count on those kind of gains....all that muscle doesnt come side-effect free best of luck to you!

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    ???

    Have you ever used Trinabol 150 or Andropen 275???

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    Quote Originally Posted by getting_strong_now
    Hi there, I was looking to make my 3rd cycle the Safest Cycle of All!!!
    I have done lots of research, and I believe that a good cycle would be:

    Andropen 275, Trinabol 150, and Clomid for PCT.

    What makes you think that a 5 estered test and a 3 estered Tren is the safest of all???????????????

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    i reckon this would be the safest cycle:

    food+water @ lots of kg/L ED
    lift @ lots of weight ED
    sleep @ 8 hours ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by slob
    lift @ lots of weight ED
    IMO lifting a lot of weight is completely overrated. Proper form and correct range of motion will overcome anyone thats strirctly concerned about the weight they move...........

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    these must be BD products. will someone please enlighten me as to what these contain....

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    these must be BD products. will someone please enlighten me as to what these contain....


    Ahhhhhhhhhh yes check the BD site Test. They make them both buddy.................

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    LOL, thanks for the info!! dont' know the site

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    LOL, thanks for the info!! dont' know the site


    Ask and you shall recieve '



    http://www.britishdragon.com/index.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    What makes you think that a 5 estered test and a 3 estered Tren is the safest of all???????????????
    If you read up on Andropen 275 you will find this:
    Unlike other testosterone compounds such as Cypionate and Enanthate , the use of Andropen leads to less water retention and estrogenic side effects. This characteristic is extremely beneficial to bodybuilders who suffer from gynecomastia yet still seek the powerful anabolic effect of an injectable testosterone.

    And Trinabol 150: Has No Water Retention, No Aromatization, and No DHT Conversion.

    That is why I was considering those 2 as apposed to Deca and Cyp.

    All testosterone compounds have High Water Retention, High Aromatization, and High DHT Conversion... except for Sustanon and Andropen.

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    Question ???

    Has anyone even tried Andropen or Trinabol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    Ask and you shall recieve '



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    Amen Brotha Jay,

    Haven't seen you in our services here on the AR lately. Welcome back.

    M.

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    have you ever run tren before? I would NOT a 3 estered tren for your first time

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    This cycle is far from safe. Tren is very androgenic . It has many sides, night sweats, aggressive behaviour to name a few. Its very suppressive and usually ends up totally shutting down ones HPTA. Thus making recovery harder.

    As above, the testosterone you suggested is a blend of many. So how would one know what sides effects there getting when running so many varied compounds?

    Not a safe choice at all.

    But how do you define safe? What are you wanting to avoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    IMO lifting a lot of weight is completely overrated. Proper form and correct range of motion will overcome anyone thats strirctly concerned about the weight they move...........

    Great observation,lot`s of people lift weights incorectly,I am concerned with proper technique rather than heavy weights,I find this helps with less chances of an Injury.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    IMO lifting a lot of weight is completely overrated. Proper form and correct range of motion will overcome anyone thats strirctly concerned about the weight they move...........
    Absolutely right, maybe a heavy day every now and then to shock your muscles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    This cycle is far from safe. Tren is very androgenic . It has many sides, night sweats, aggressive behaviour to name a few. Its very suppressive and usually ends up totally shutting down ones HPTA. Thus making recovery harder.

    As above, the testosterone you suggested is a blend of many. So how would one know what sides effects there getting when running so many varied compounds?

    Not a safe choice at all.

    But how do you define safe? What are you wanting to avoid?
    So true, good post Swifto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    Amen Brotha Jay,

    Haven't seen you in our services here on the AR lately. Welcome back.

    M.

    I'm always lurking so you never know when I'm going to pop up.

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