12 weeks of sus 250 (twice a week),

**chunks** · 01-20-2006, 07:09 AM

going to do hcg and liquid nolva, do i need clomid?

**Jimmya73** · 01-20-2006, 07:23 AM

yes, you should always use clomid.

**O.M.E.G.A** · 01-20-2006, 08:25 AM

HCG , Nolvadex , Clomid YES

**oldman** · 01-20-2006, 08:26 AM

Yes you need clomid. Well three Yes' I guess that makes it official.

Oldman

**chunks** · 01-20-2006, 08:42 AM

Thats what i was afraid of! For some reason i cant seem to find anyone who can get me some. Ive got everything else apart from clomid. Guess ive got to keep looking!!

**oldman** · 01-20-2006, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by chunks

Thats what i was afraid of! For some reason i cant seem to find anyone who can get me some. Ive got everything else apart from clomid. Guess ive got to keep looking!!

When did you start your cycle? the HCG will help get yous "boys" back in shape but you really need Clomid for PCT.. I do not know what you can use to replace Clomid if you can't get any but I am sure someone might be able to pipe in and help answer that.

Oldman

**Kale** · 01-20-2006, 08:49 AM

Mate just click on the word Clomid all through this post. It will take you to a site where you can buy it

**oldman** · 01-20-2006, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Mate just click on the word Clomid all through this post. It will take you to a site where you can buy it

DUH!! I forgot about them having that... hee.. Oh boy I need sleep.. thanks Kale.

Oldman

**grimnlock** · 01-20-2006, 10:21 AM

Start Clomid 3 weeks from last shot
Day 1-3 : 100mg
Day 4-21: 50mg

**Booz** · 01-20-2006, 10:23 AM

to be precise 18 days.

**oldman** · 01-20-2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by booz

to be precise 18 days.

Why 18 days? what would be wrong with starting earlier and going longer? this is for my info not questioning your post.

thanks booz

**Booz** · 01-20-2006, 10:30 AM

i just follow pheedno's protocol with pct start times mate,i do not suppose 3 days longer will matter at all.
and this states the active life of sustanon is 18 days,so thats when pct can begin.

**Jimmya73** · 01-20-2006, 10:34 AM

its not that its harmful to start sooner, it is just that its probably useless since you have active steroid in your body and your natural testosterone wont want to recover.

**grimnlock** · 01-20-2006, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by booz

i just follow pheedno's protocol with pct start times mate,i do not suppose 3 days longer will matter at all. and this states the active life of sustanon is 18 days,so thats when pct can begin.

**oldman** · 01-20-2006, 10:39 AM

gotcha!! Well crap I started clomid too soon then. I had a 1/2CC of Sust left on my final 15 week run and then I started 7 days later.. I did HCG throughout the cycle so the boys are good.. I am also using LDex from AAR..

Do you think I am going to be okay on this?? I only have 28 days worth of Clomid (pills) should I order some clomi from AAR to finish out the last 10-12 days past it? ugh!!

thanks

**Booz** · 01-20-2006, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by oldman

gotcha!! Well crap I started clomid too soon then. I had a 1/2CC of Sust left on my final 15 week run and then I started 7 days later.. I did HCG throughout the cycle so the boys are good.. I am also using LDex from AAR..

Do you think I am going to be okay on this?? I only have 28 days worth of Clomid (pills) should I order some clomi from AAR to finish out the last 10-12 days past it? ugh!!

thanks

i think to be on the safe side old you should get some more!with the test still in your system you imo have wasted the clomid.

**grimnlock** · 01-20-2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by oldman

gotcha!! Well crap I started clomid too soon then. I had a 1/2CC of Sust left on my final 15 week run and then I started 7 days later.. I did HCG throughout the cycle so the boys are good.. I am also using LDex from AAR..

Do you think I am going to be okay on this?? I only have 28 days worth of Clomid (pills) should I order some clomi from AAR to finish out the last 10-12 days past it? ugh!!

thanks

Well its ok if u started earlier. No harm but it was a waste though. The reason why we start the PCT cycle based on the half life of the steroid compound we use is because we want the testosterone elevation to end. Once there is no more 'free' test, our boys gotta produce them and clomid helps increase in the natural production of test.

**grimnlock** · 01-20-2006, 10:51 AM

Sorry forgot to add the part where i say "yes do buy enough to end the PCT cycle right"

**Massacre** · 01-20-2006, 11:07 AM

Shoot the Sus EOD for maximum gains. Not 2x a week. The dose can stay at 500mg just split it up accordingly so the EOD shots sum up to 500mg at the end of the week. EOD shots will keep blood levels stable and decrease your chance of getting sides.

That's the REAL way of using Sustanon .