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    test-e questions

    Hey fellas,
    im just getting ready to do my first cycle which is gunna be test e alone for 10 weeks at 500mg.. is it a good idea to run liquidex along with the test e to cut down on possible bloating? My goal for this first cycle was to gain 15 ibs of lean mass.. Depennding on diet etc., are gains from the test e typically lean mass or what should i expect.. See ive never had the experience of "bloat" so i dont really know what to expect with the cycle.. Any input from you guys is appreciated.. thanks

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    well thas one of the reasons guys run nolva throughout a cycle... simply to keep water retention to a minimum and other ish.. and if your diet is in check youll gain around 15 or more but of course youll lose a few through pct..

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    10-20 mgs of NolvaDex a day
    .5 mg of Adex

    may want to consider doing 350 mgs First Cycle
    just to really see how you respond

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA
    10-20 mgs of NolvaDex a day
    .5 mg of Adex

    may want to consider doing 350 mgs First Cycle
    just to really see how you respond
    uh 350? if you are going to tell him to do a low dose why not make it an easy one? 1cc EW or 250mg.....

    Maybe instead of running 500mg for 10wks you could run 250 for 12-14...just something to keep in mind.

    Either way both dosages are fine for ur first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briansauras
    uh 350? if you are going to tell him to do a low dose why not make it an easy one? 1cc EW or 250mg.....

    Maybe instead of running 500mg for 10wks you could run 250 for 12-14...just something to keep in mind.

    Either way both dosages are fine for ur first.
    ive read first timers gaining very good weight on doses of test from 200-400/ew but it is personal preference i suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by briansauras
    uh 350? if you are going to tell him to do a low dose why not make it an easy one? 1cc EW or 250mg.....

    Maybe instead of running 500mg for 10wks you could run 250 for 12-14...just something to keep in mind.

    Either way both dosages are fine for ur first.
    Because 350 of Test E ( 250 mg Every 5th day) should Yields about 36 mgs of Free Test A day once the half lives accumlate Sir and the Ester is Subtracted.

    Thats Over 3 Times the Normal Male
    Very GOOD for a first cycle

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    Id bump the test e to 12 weeks if your gonna run it at 500/wk....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA
    Because 350 of Test E ( 250 mg Every 5th day) should Yields about 36 mgs of Free Test A day once the half lives accumlate Sir and the Ester is Subtracted.

    Thats Over 3 Times the Normal Male
    Very GOOD for a first cycle
    The average male generally has about 14mgs. If im wrong, please correct me (wit hlinks)

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    id go with 250/wk for 10 wks for your first. Plus you dont know how your body will react to test.... you'll see great gains...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milky87
    The average male generally has about 14mgs. If im wrong, please correct me (wit hlinks)

    actually it more like 5-11

    5 being Low 11 being High

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripdx
    id go with 250/wk for 10 wks for your first. Plus you dont know how your body will react to test.... you'll see great gains...
    Yes , even if it does not yield "tremendous gains"

    the knowledge acrrued will pay of dividends in the future
    that much is certain

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    250 seems a bit low to me......but everyone is different....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    250 seems a bit low to me......but everyone is different....
    yeah it really depends

    if its any help and "freind of mine " who is 6'3 300 plus is on Test E only at 350 a week, and its Pleanty for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA
    yeah it really depends

    if its any help and "freind of mine " who is 6'3 300 plus is on Test E only at 350 a week, and its Pleanty for him.
    Lose dosages seem to be getting alot more common. It's still alot more test than the body would naturally produce, so you would have to get gains off of it.

    I like the idea of loser dosages, especially for newbies. Lets them (me included) to find out how their body will react to the added test.

    Great info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler

    Lets them (me included) to find out how their body will react to the added test.
    this is the safest route....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA
    Yes , even if it does not yield "tremendous gains"

    the knowledge acrrued will pay of dividends in the future
    that much is certain
    What's your thoughts on adding in something like 30mg of Dbol (or other oral)to kick start a low dose cycle like 250ew? For a second cycle, or maybe even a first?

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    shouldnt be a problem for most.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldog2g
    Hey fellas,
    im just getting ready to do my first cycle which is gunna be test e alone for 10 weeks at 500mg.. is it a good idea to run liquidex along with the test e to cut down on possible bloating?
    That is a great idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    What's your thoughts on adding in something like 30mg of Dbol (or other oral)to kick start a low dose cycle like 250ew? For a second cycle, or maybe even a first?


    its a great idea to kickstart a cycle especially if its not a long one and you want to get down to "business"

    Option 1
    Dbol at 20-25 mgs a day for 3-4 weeks
    Test E 250-300 mgs a week.

    Option 2
    NO Dbol but "Front Load" Test E instead at 500 mgs the first 2 weeks
    then follow with 250-300 mgs a week

    Front Loading achieves what the Dbol does in this cycle without popping Dbol like Pez

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