can anybody advise

[fino]

can anyone advise on a good cutting cycle.
i just would like to put on lean mass rather that warter and fat like most of the teat cycles. it just that i have got a bit of fat to get rid of aswell

[FranKieC]

can anyone advise on a good cutting cycle.
i just would like to put on lean mass rather that warter and fat like most of the teat cycles. it just that i have got a bit of fat to get rid of aswell

Go to the diet forum and check the cutting sticky.

[fino]

yea i have see it
i have read the recomendid novice cyces
but i just wanted to know what thepepole who had done afew would advise thanks

[01dragonslayer]

You can cut with any cycle. Water retention should not be a concern if your anti-es are in order. The key to any cutting cycle is diet and a disciplined cardio routine.

[scotttiger54]

You can cut with any cycle. Water retention should not be a concern if your anti-es are in order. The key to any cutting cycle is diet and a disciplined cardio routine.

this of course is true. you can cut with any steroid with proper diet,anti'e's,and cardio. but for a specific cutter i would run prop,tren , and winny

[scotttiger54]

tren is optional especially if you have ran few cycles, however

[fino]

yea i know this but i dont wana do a bulk. then find myself doing to much cardio and missing out on cals. plus i wouldnt like to do to much with a rasied bp

[FranKieC]

yea i have see it
i have read the recomendid novice cyces
but i just wanted to know what thepepole who had done afew would advise thanks

I didn't tell you to read the Novice cycles information I said go to the diet forum and read the information for the "Cutting diet" Remember my friend you are what you eat.

I have no clue to what your cycle experience is so i wouldn't make any suggestions but just know you could take all the juice you want and if your diet isent in check it will be a waste.

[scotttiger54]

clen would be nice in the cutting cycle. help lose that bf without sacrificing so much muscle

[01dragonslayer]

yea i know this but i dont wana do a bulk. then find myself doing to much cardio and missing out on cals. plus i wouldnt like to do to much with a rasied bp

....previous cycle history????

[fino]

this is my first time. i have been looking a all differnt types b4 i start i want to get it right and not **** up

[fino]

yea and i have read it and it was what my diet was like b4 i read it.

[scotttiger54]

this is my first time. i have been looking a all differnt types b4 i start i want to get it right and not **** up

prop and winny would def be a good first. check it out

wks 1-8: 75mg prop/ed
wks 2-8: 50mg winny/ed
nolva @ 10mg/ed thoughout-.25mg l'dex
proper pct

[fino]

and what would be the proper pct
and could i run clen all the way thro

[scotttiger54]

and what would be the proper pct
and could i run clen all the way thro

do a search for pheedno's pct. and clen is not to be ran throughout the entirety of the cycle

[01dragonslayer]

IMO keep it simple for a newb. Test E or cyp and maybe some winny or var towards the end to help solify some gains.

Prop needs to be injected daily to get the best results and that may be much for a first go. Keep your diet and cardio in check and you won't have any probs. Add a thrermogic for a little additional help.

Save ED injections for a future cycle.

[scotttiger54]

IMO keep it simple for a newb. Test E or cyp and maybe some winny or var towards the end to help solify some gains.

Prop needs to be injected daily to get the best results and that may be much for a first go. Keep your diet and cardio in check and you won't have any probs. Add a thrermogic for a little additional help.

Save ED injections for a future cycle.

this is true. enth would work well and var is a safe choice. but hell, if he can man up for ed inj then i feel he would be pleased.

[fino]

would i still b able to lose some of the body fat i have already if i use a test and a cutter

[fino]

and i dont like the idea of injct ed for first time sorry to disa point

[01dragonslayer]

would i still b able to lose some of the body fat i have already if i use a test and a cutter

Why wouldn't you?????

[fino]

well what would you advise for my first time if i still have body fat to get rid of

[fino]

bump

[fino]

bump

[fino]

????????????

[fino]

what about

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk1-10 deca 400mg
wk1-10 test e 500mg
wk7-13 winny 50mg ed (should i use somthing else insted of winny)

pct
1-10 nolva 10mg ed
10-16 nolva 20mg ed
1-16 ldex .25mg ed
13-16 clomid
1-16 vit b6
i can get clenb but were and how should i add it to my pct


cardio 6 days a week
i.e
mon- chest tri's calfs/45 mins cardio tredmill
tues-cardio 1 hour road running
wed-back thighs/45 mins cardio tredmill
thurs- cardio 1 hour road run
fri- shoulders bi's/45min cardio tredmill
sat-road run 1hour

[fino]

anyone

[velvetlion]

If your worry is about water weight I would leave out the dbol . If your looking for a good kickstart for the cycle you could go with tbol. Also the deca is gonna make you gain a ton of bloat. Since it is your first cycle I would try to keep it simple and just drop the deca. I also prefer var over winny, but both are good.

You could try:

Tbol 1-4 40mg ED
Test E or C 500mg 1-10
var 8-12 40mg ED

your PCT looks fine to me bro, start the clomid at 13 just like you did in your original. And remember, the diet is all important in holding these gains and cutting the fat.

[fino]

is there any other ideas on what i should do