Help, My hairs falling out..

**duramaxedge** · 01-24-2006, 06:37 PM

On a different note.. I was sitting at my laptop 2 days ago and kinda brushed my hair around and quite a few hairs just fell out.. and continued too.. How can I subside this or.. regrow some new hair? On my moms side her dad had a receiding hair line.. same as dads.. So im sure its enevitable.. But im only 24! .. Any suggestions?? or products?

If so whats the dosages, how does it work, and how long does it take.. and lastly.. whats the outcome of use?

***SPIKE*** · 01-24-2006, 06:41 PM

Since you're on an Anabolic board I have to ask. Are you running any AAS (steroids ) with this?

God I hate that word for some reason. I think because its socially frowned upon, who knows. I like the word juice. Sounds like I"m gaining energy just from saying the word.

**velvetlion** · 01-24-2006, 06:42 PM

If you have a natural propensity to lose hair, aas will speed that up. There are certain drugs that are worse than others. Do some research on DHT and read some drug profiles to see what might work better for you.

Someone else will need to comment on what you can take to help stop it from happening. I have never used anything.

**duramaxedge** · 01-24-2006, 06:43 PM

Ya, sorry my other post was about my cycles.. Im 3 or 4 weeks off a 500mg Enanthe and 200mg wk cycle Ran Dbol 1-6 and anavar at the end .. Nolva throughout and im running Clomid now.. week 2

**duramaxedge** · 01-24-2006, 06:45 PM

also Jayhova can u help me on my other Post "can use a little help on this cycle"

***SPIKE*** · 01-24-2006, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by duramaxedge

also Jayhova can u help me on my other Post "can use a little help on this cycle"

I actually posted it a while ago. You were in the right direction, just needed a little adjustment here and there.......

**themetalmich** · 01-25-2006, 12:50 AM

check out
www.hairlossresearch.com

**themetalmich** · 01-25-2006, 12:54 AM

sorry.
wrong site.
this one covers steroids and hairloss.
www.hairloss-research.org

**Nautica2286** · 01-25-2006, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by themetalmich

sorry.
wrong site.
this one covers steroids and hairloss.
www.hairloss-research.org

lol you beat me to it..

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STEROIDS AND HAIR LOSS

HAIR LOSS AND "JUICE"

It used to be thought that having a full healthy head of hair and a muscular ripped body were contradictory, if not mutually exclusive propositions, after all if hair loss was related to DHT, and high male hormone levels, how could anyone maximize their own anabolic potential and not have to simultaneously deal with hair loss?? I am personally self absorbed and narcissistic enough to demand both, and have dedicated a great deal of time investigating just how I could have both. All I can tell you is that, after talking to literally hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders, and my own personal experience, it is possible, but you have to know what you're doing.

In this piece I will delve into what effects certain "anabolic agents" consistently have on scalp hair, so you won't inadvertently compromise your hair, or perhaps miss out on some beneficial anabolic agents for fear they will. It may seem to some like I'm advocating the use of certain steroids or stacks, and perhaps I am. I've been training for more then 20 years, and have rally been around the block in this business. I have never had a desire to compete, but have successfully (and unsuccessfully at times) used various "anabolic agents" to stay in top shape, and will continue to do so.

My commitment is simply to tell you in a straightforward, no B.S. way and which ones are safe to use. The medical and legal considerations and ramifications are obviously yours to deal with on an individual basis. As always, consult a "physician".

Deca Durabolin - I've never had a problem with my hair on this one, neither have hundreds of other guys I've talked to. The safety of this steroid , as far as hairloss is concerned, stems from the fact that 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, instead of converting it to a stronger androgen like DHT, converts it to a very mild androgen called DHN. Taken in dosages of up to 300-400 mg weekly it shouldn't produce any hairloss problems, this is due to the fact that, being a highly HPTA supressive androgen, 300-400 mg are no more androgenic than our endogenous testosterone (supressed while we are taking it) would be.. One BIG word of caution: While you are taken Deca Durabolin never ever take 5AR blockers such as Proscar/Propecia, for it would block the conversion of nandrolone to DHN in tissues such as the scalp and the prostate, resulting in hairloss and BPH, which is what we are trying to avoid taking Deca .

Testosterone cypionate, propionate, etc., androderm, sustanon 250: All of these are different testosterone preparations, they all have the same properties as far as hairloss is concerned: they convert to DHT via 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. That's the main reason why testosterone is so androgenic. However, if one takes testosterone along with a 5AR blocker such as Proscar it's not nearly that harmful for your hair. So, if you are concerned about hairloss and are taking testosterone, always use it along with Proscar. Take into account that DHT is an anti-estrogen and blocking it while your body has supraphysiological levels of testosterone might lead to gynecomastia , so it's advisable to combine Proscar with Arimidex (an aromatase inhibitor).

Anadrol\50 - If you value your hair, don't touch this one with a ten foot pole. Nothing seems to control its negative effects on hair. Not Proscar, Not Nizoral, nothing...

Dianabol -Same as Anadrol \50.

Primobolan - One of the less androgenic steroids. If you are concerned about hairloss this steroid is for you. It's much more anabolic than it is androgenic.

Oxandrolone (Anavar) - It's the safest steroid for your hair along with Primobolan and Deca.

Boldenone (Equipoise) - After the Primo, Anavar and Deca this is probably one of the safest for your hair. Although it undergoes 5-alpha-reduction, its affinity for this enzyme is minimal, so there is very little conversion. Moreover, its 5-alpha-reduced form is not as androgenic as DHT.

DHEA - Does not negatively affect hair in men. May help prevent hair loss by offsetting the binding of DHT to follicles. The product is a Disaster for women with hair loss. DHEA causes hair loss in women much like DHT in Men. DHEA discriminates against women.

Androstenedione - The worst of all prohormones in the market. It has a low conversion to testosterone, around 5%, which is damn too low. Worse yet is the fact that, before converting to testosterone, androstenedione directly interacts with aromatase and 5AR, thus converting to estrogen and DHT prior to conversion to target hormone.. You will be far better of using testosterone than this scum.

1-testosterone - A legal steroid, at least for the time being. It's very androgenic and very anabolic. Although it's a 5-alpha-reduced steroid it converts to DHT through an unknown pathway, so using Proscar along with it won't avoid DHT conversion. Its anabolic/androgenic ratio (~(1.5-2):1) is slightly higher than that of test (1:1). Be wary while using this product if you value your hair.

As time goes on, certainly cleaner, anabolic agents will be developed. The vast majority of users I talked to, have been on Prpecia/Proscar and Nizoral, myself included (amongst many other things).

Finally, take into account that you should also use topical spironolactone (2-5%) while juicing. This product directly antagonizes scalp ARs when used topically, hence it will be useful with any sort of steroid, even those that do not undergo 5-alpha-reduction.

Conclusion: The safety stack as far as hairloss is concerned would be a cycle consisting of Primobolan, Oxandrolone and Deca. Take into account that Deca, although being very mild for your hair, is not nearly as safe as oxandrolone and primobolan as far as HPTA supression and gynecomastia is concerned. If you want to play it completely safe when using steroid and avoid jeopardizing your health (and not only your hair) use cycles consisting of Oxandrolone and Primobolan.""""""""""''
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im gonna take a guess and say that the DBol is what really caused it..

**indrid_cold17** · 01-25-2006, 06:11 AM

Deca Durabolin - I've never had a problem with my hair on this one, neither have hundreds of other guys I've talked to. The safety of this steroid , as far as hairloss is concerned, stems from the fact that 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, instead of converting it to a stronger androgen like DHT, converts it to a very mild androgen called DHN. Taken in dosages of up to 300-400 mg weekly it shouldn't produce any hairloss problems, this is due to the fact that, being a highly HPTA supressive androgen, 300-400 mg are no more androgenic than our endogenous testosterone (supressed while we are taking it) would be.. One BIG word of caution: While you are taken Deca Durabolin never ever take 5AR blockers such as Proscar/Propecia, for it would block the conversion of nandrolone to DHN in tissues such as the scalp and the prostate, resulting in hairloss and BPH, which is what we are trying to avoid taking Deca.

well first deca shouldnt be taken alone ,,i have never ran it alone but this is what i have heard from all the guys here cause there is a possibility of getting deca dick even though it doesnt happen to all the guys ,,
2nd i posted a thread where i asked about using finasteride with deca and test cycle and the answer was a yes so that hair loss from the high androgenic compound test would be stopped and hairloss from deca even without its conversion to dhn should be minimal but now i am confused ,,,

**SWOLLL** · 01-25-2006, 11:11 AM

24 I started losing mine at 20 tried evertything under the sun to stop it but I couldnt even slow it down. The only solution I have found now at 28 is a bic razor. Both of my grandfathers were bald I think it is just genetic. My advice would be dont waste your money on every new hair loss treatment that comes out like I did, buy a new car, but then again you may have better luck than I did. Good luck whichever way you go.

**fhorst** · 01-25-2006, 11:21 AM

one word. Finasteride

**superfat73** · 02-12-2006, 01:33 AM

damn

**vitor** · 02-12-2006, 02:41 AM

Why dont you guys yust get a hair-transplant!!!

**Sharky72** · 02-12-2006, 04:48 PM

5 yrs from now they will hopefully be cloning the hair follicles.. Then I'll be a jacked pretty Mother F*cker. Lol. Seriously I get just as much a$$ now, just my self esteem is what holds me back and that was never a problem before..

**Sharky72** · 02-12-2006, 04:51 PM

Wanted that 200 post >> Sorry

**Bashar** · 02-13-2006, 04:35 PM

What about using Tren , does that make your hair fall out???

**Bashar** · 02-13-2006, 04:36 PM

What about using Tren , does that make your hair fall out???

**steve lopez** · 02-17-2006, 03:30 AM

first let me say primo is worse than or equal to the effecrs of winny on hair, primo is a dht derivative, which is hardly known. The worst part is that its effects continue until the esters have been completely left the body. In other words stop using it today and your hair will still fall out for another 3 weeks

**PreMier** · 02-17-2006, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by duramaxedge

Ya, sorry my other post was about my cycles.. Im 3 or 4 weeks off a 500mg Enanthe and 200mg wk cycle Ran Dbol 1-6 and anavar at the end .. Nolva throughout and im running Clomid now.. week 2

Sounds like you can choose to have hair or choose to use steroids . I would not give up my hair for a few pounds of temporary muscle, but thats just me.

**39.5Swamp** · 02-17-2006, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by PreMier

Sounds like you can choose to have hair or choose to use steroids. I would not give up my hair for a few pounds of temporary muscle, but thats just me.

If you think it is just temporary you shouldn't do gear anyway. If you do it right they don't go away. I f you are going to lose your hair you will lose your hair. I would rather be big and have some hair loss than be small and lose it anyway 5 yrs later.

**fitguy** · 02-17-2006, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by PreMier

Sounds like you can choose to have hair or choose to use steroids. I would not give up my hair for a few pounds of temporary muscle, but thats just me.

what do u mean by temporary muscle??

**39.5Swamp** · 02-17-2006, 07:43 AM

I just use synthol anyway. No sides except beautiful muscles. I got that balloon look that makes the girls wet. No working out either so the sweat won't glom up my hair gel so I look good at the gay bar with that dude from true life....until he raged on me.

**GoldieTheMack** · 03-06-2006, 09:42 AM

Good thread.
Gold

**magic32** · 03-06-2006, 02:31 PM

[Nautica2286]
Primobolan - One of the less androgenic steroids. If you are concerned about hairloss this steroid is for you. It's much more anabolic than it is androgenic.

This seems diametrically opposed to the profile:
Excerpt:
"Although estrogenic sides are not a concern, hair loss still, remains a very real concern with Primobolan , as with many DHT-Derived steroids . Many primobolan fans always include Finasteride and Ketoconazole (shampoo) in cycles containing Primobolan."

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