Question regarding Prop and first cycle?

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:09 PM

Hi. I'm 23 and been working out for six years now and competing for 4 years now naturally. I just started my first cycle of just test prop for I don't want to hold a lot of water although I'm bulking up. I'm doing 100mg's every 3-days and am going to do my 2nd shot tomorrow. The stuff I got from was a really trustworthy guy but have not noticed anything at all the first 4-days. Shouldn' the prop. at least be starting to kick in or more vascularity, etc.? help me out, thanks.

**Juicy Sauce** · 01-26-2006, 02:15 PM

bro, its only been 4 days. relax a little. give it a week and tell me if u dont feel it. the only problem is your blood testo levels will be up and down like a roller coaster on e3d injections. one day you will feel good and the next you might get all emotional or something. why not just inject ed or eod at least.

**stupidhippo** · 01-26-2006, 02:16 PM

well u should start feeling sumin but that is a pretty low dose.. When I first did a cycle it was with prop and I could feel it after 2 jabs (4days) -horniness, mental stuff that kind of stuff.. maybe a boost in energy but as for notable results lookin in the mirror that took some time.

**Mallet** · 01-26-2006, 02:16 PM

If you've only taken one shot then NO you won't feel the effects, it's not magic...i would increase your shots to EOD at the least rather than E3D. You'll notice some reults after about 3 or 4 shots, but with only 200-300mgs/week of test your not going to see any dramatic difference in size and strength. You would be better off taking 500mgs/week of enanthate and running 10-20mgs/day of nolva, but if your gonna run the prop you need to go EOD at the very least.

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:17 PM

Hi, from what I'm told it is best to do every 3-days especially since it is my first cycle that is why I'm just doing test also.

**Juicy Sauce** · 01-26-2006, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

Hi, from what I'm told it is best to do every 3-days especially since it is my first cycle that is why I'm just doing test also.

please tell me who told you to run prop e3d?

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:20 PM

Nobody on these boards, but a extremely knowledgeable guy who is a pro bodybuilder that goes to my gym and am personal friends with

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:20 PM

sorry about double post

**Mallet** · 01-26-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

Nobody on these boards, but a extremely knowledgeable guy who is a pro bodybuilder that goes to my gym and am personal friends with

I can't see a pro telling you to run prop every three days? Go EOD at the least.

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:23 PM

maybe he is just being to cautious since it is my first cycle?

**Monsteronjuice** · 01-26-2006, 02:23 PM

running ever 3rd day is bs. EOD at the longest, prop is short lived, thats why ed or eod is neccesarily.

**Juicy Sauce** · 01-26-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

Nobody on these boards, but a extremely knowledgeable guy who is a pro bodybuilder that goes to my gym and am personal friends with

next time double chech with one of the bros on here. k?

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:24 PM

He has been running the gear for about 18years.

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:25 PM

alright. I know what everyone says on here and know that seemed a bit long in between but I thought since it was my first cycle I would just be on the cautious side a bit.

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:28 PM

so eod 100mg should be ok for first cycle nothing more I would think.

**Juicy Sauce** · 01-26-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

alright. I know what everyone says on here and know that seemed a bit long in between but I thought since it was my first cycle I would just be on the cautious side a bit.

being on the cautious side is taking lower dose, which is what u r doing. but not having stable blood levels is not smart. anyways its not a lecture. its not to late. go inject now and follow eod. gotta go to the gym. bye.

**Mallet** · 01-26-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

alright. I know what everyone says on here and know that seemed a bit long in between but I thought since it was my first cycle I would just be on the cautious side a bit.

You would be more cautious going ED or EOD than E3D, your blood levels will be rising and falling, that's a hotbed for side effects. You want to keep even blood concentrations, that's why I would advice ED, but, going EOD will suffice...

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:30 PM

thanks

**Juicy Sauce** · 01-26-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

so eod 100mg should be ok for first cycle nothing more I would think.

that would be just right brother

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:31 PM

I'm also taking DHEA to balance out body functions while on the prop

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:32 PM

thanks for all the help, I'm just going to do eod

**Gra** · 01-26-2006, 02:33 PM

If I where you I would listen to the adwise you get here. Just do 100mg eod. 350mg a week would be a good start IMO.

**Gra** · 01-26-2006, 02:34 PM

You`re too fast for me. lol.

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:34 PM

thats what I'm going to do.

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:35 PM

from what I'm told test prop is rated differently then say cyp and enthate. prop is stronger mg/mg

**symatech** · 01-26-2006, 02:36 PM

I agree with what the other guys are telling you. 50mg ED is your safest bet. That's 350mg per week total and not a bad choice at all for a first cycle. When I run prop I use it ED and generally about 7-10 days into it I start to feel it. At about 3 weeks it's really going strong. But remember also like Mallet said these aren't magic drugs, intensity in the gym, solid diet and proper lifestyle is where the gains really come from.

Best of luck with your cycle!

**billybob13** · 01-26-2006, 02:37 PM

I know. I have a nutritionalist and have been dieting for 4 years now. Bulking and cutting every year.

**symatech** · 01-26-2006, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by billybob13

from what I'm told test prop is rated differently then say cyp and enthate. prop is stronger mg/mg

It's not stronger per se it's just higher dosed. The esters in long acting test weigh more than the short estered prop, thus in a random sample lets say 100mg, a higher percent of that will be testosterone than if you have a smaller ester.